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Obama is a war criminal
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RE: Obama is a war criminal
(January 4, 2015 at 12:38 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Is this the best you can do? W Bush lied us into a war. McCain would have likely taken us into a new war with Iran. Romney would have take "doubled Guantanamo" and might have taken us into a new war if it were profitable. Obama's crimes consist of covering for the previous occupants and continuing some of their policies. He's bad. They're worse. Your both sides argument fails.
Obama is worse in certain respects. Yes, Bush's policies were directly responsible for a whole shitload of innocent people getting killed, no doubt many more than Obama. Bush's appointees such as Rumsfeld were also stringing together a foreign policy ad hoc, in the wake of a crisis, whereas Obama has taken those policies, wrapped them up with a bow to make them look nice, and sold them to the Democrats who opposed the war as "smart policy." And he's also made it much more difficult for whistle blowers and journalists to expose corruption. So, in that regards, I think Obama has done more harm in the long run because now we simply accept these atrocities as normal, and we have a "constitutional lawyer" who can speak better than most saying they're legal. These will not change in the foreseeable future, as both parties are basically out to achieve the same goals (i.e. "protect national security" at all costs, even if the costs might be counterproductive), whereas in 2008, I think many of us were hopeful that they would change. There's also trust in government. I think Obama has done more damage to how people, particularly younger voters, perceive politicians and the promises they make, not because Obama is uniquely deceptive, but because he was that much better at coming across as a genuine and concerned person.
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Obama is a war criminal - by CapnAwesome - December 29, 2014 at 8:54 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by Ryantology - December 29, 2014 at 9:51 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by Minimalist - December 29, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by Anomalocaris - January 1, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by Mudhammam - January 2, 2015 at 2:24 am
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by DeistPaladin - December 29, 2014 at 10:39 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by CapnAwesome - January 3, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by DeistPaladin - January 4, 2015 at 12:53 am
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by CapnAwesome - January 4, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by DeistPaladin - January 4, 2015 at 12:38 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by Mudhammam - January 4, 2015 at 9:18 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by DeistPaladin - December 29, 2014 at 11:58 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by TaraJo - January 1, 2015 at 11:05 am
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by JuliaL - January 1, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by Minimalist - January 1, 2015 at 2:45 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by vorlon13 - January 1, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by Thumpalumpacus - January 2, 2015 at 12:42 am
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by vorlon13 - January 2, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by tjakey - January 1, 2015 at 10:01 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by Anomalocaris - January 2, 2015 at 1:25 am
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by tjakey - January 2, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by Ryantology - January 2, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by tjakey - January 4, 2015 at 11:05 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by Thumpalumpacus - January 5, 2015 at 12:19 am
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by CapnAwesome - January 4, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by DeistPaladin - January 4, 2015 at 12:44 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by CapnAwesome - January 4, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by DeistPaladin - January 4, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: Obama is a war criminal - by Minimalist - January 4, 2015 at 11:37 pm

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