Detecting design or intent in nature

[Heywood]

Certainly the simulators are systems designed for evolution occur. The "organisms" in them and their environment are designed. The choice as to which to reproduce is also designed pretty much in the same way artificially selection is used to change animals.

But the universe or even the earth does not show any signs of being a system designed for evolution. It is far too big, messy, and inefficient a place for life to occur to have been designed for reproducing organisms to evolve in. Evolution does happen within it, but it does not show any signs of being designed for evolution. Simply because a thing or process happens in a part of an environment is not evidence that the environment was designed for that thing or process. Wooden houses with central heat and plumbing are ideal habitats for carpenter ants and carpenter ant building. But they are not designed for carpenter ants, though I can certainly imagine some little intelligent Heywood ant arguing that it was.

You are shifting the goal posts here. In this thread I am not claiming that the universe is designed. I am claiming that the evolutionary system which resulted in you and I existing was designed or at least required a pre-existing intellect to exist. Why? Because every evolutionary system I have observed, which I also know the details of its origination, ALWAYS, either required an intellect to design it, or requires an intellect to be a component of it.

In another thread I did claim the universe appeared to be designed....but remember I said it wasn't designed for life but rather is was designed for emergent complexity.