RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 1:25 am
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2015 at 1:28 am by Alex K.)
Hey ho,
Of course we don't mind, where would the fun be in not letting believers argue for their position! The only thing that's strongly discouraged here is preaching without engaging in discussion.
Anyways - I share with you a strong, almost spiritual (in an emotional, not supernatural sense) wonder at the universe. However, three problems I have with your statement:
I think your 2) is the correct choice, and your conclusion does not seem to follow from it???
Also, I don't buy your argument from ignorance concerning the eye etc., that's such an old chestnut that already good ol Chuck Darwin addresses it in his chapter "Difficulties on theory" of Origin. It's even less of a mystery today.
Finally, my pet peeve: saying that the universe had to come from somewhere is nonsensical if you mean by that time was created. It is wrong if you assume time to preexist. In either case, God does not solve any philosophical problem here, merely postpones it while introducing needless complucation.
Of course we don't mind, where would the fun be in not letting believers argue for their position! The only thing that's strongly discouraged here is preaching without engaging in discussion.
Anyways - I share with you a strong, almost spiritual (in an emotional, not supernatural sense) wonder at the universe. However, three problems I have with your statement:
I think your 2) is the correct choice, and your conclusion does not seem to follow from it???
Also, I don't buy your argument from ignorance concerning the eye etc., that's such an old chestnut that already good ol Chuck Darwin addresses it in his chapter "Difficulties on theory" of Origin. It's even less of a mystery today.
Finally, my pet peeve: saying that the universe had to come from somewhere is nonsensical if you mean by that time was created. It is wrong if you assume time to preexist. In either case, God does not solve any philosophical problem here, merely postpones it while introducing needless complucation.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
