RE: New Ager to Christian to Atheist
January 14, 2015 at 1:18 pm
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2015 at 1:20 pm by Davka.)
(January 14, 2015 at 12:47 pm)Drich Wrote:(January 14, 2015 at 12:36 pm)Davka Wrote: So one parable trumps everything else in the Gospels?
How convenient.
The Direct words of Christ trump 'church' doctrine.
I provided the direct words of Christ, you provided the beginnings of the 'doctrine of salvation.' so yeah Christ's teachings dictate or define biblical Christianity here.
"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to the whole creation.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned."
Mark 16: 15,16, ASV
He spoke by way of a parable: 5 “The sower went out to sow his seed; and as he sowed, some fell beside the road, and it was trampled under foot and the birds of the [a]air ate it up. 6 Other seed fell on rocky soil, and as soon as it grew up, it withered away, because it had no moisture. 7 Other seed fell among the thorns; and the thorns grew up with it and choked it out. 8 Other seed fell into the good soil, and grew up, and produced a crop a hundred times as great.” As He said these things, He would call out, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”
9 His disciples began questioning Him as to what this parable meant. 10 And He said, “To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is in parables, so that seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.
11 “Now the parable is this: the seed is the word of God. 12 Those beside the road are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their heart, so that they will not believe and be saved. 13 Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; [c]they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. 14 The seed which fell among the thorns, these are the ones who have heard, and as they go on their way they are choked with worries and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to maturity. 15 But the seed in the good soil, these are the ones who have heard the word in an honest and good heart, and hold it fast, and bear fruit with [d]perseverance."
Luke 8: 4a-16, NASB
Looks like Jesus said at least twice that you have to hear the Gospel in order to be saved.
