RE: Need help choosing Greek/Roman authors
March 1, 2015 at 4:39 pm
(This post was last modified: March 1, 2015 at 4:43 pm by Mudhammam.)
So last week I finished Herodotus' The History, translated by David Grene, and Friedrich Nietzsche's Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks, translated by Marianne Cowan.
The History was a fascinating and enjoyable read, and I recommend it to anyone interested in how a 5th-century Greek with a relatively skeptical viewed the world, but more importantly, how they reconstructed history. I think Richard Carrier summed it up well in his essay "Why The Resurrection Is Unbelievable" when he wrote:
Overall I give it 4/5.
Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks is a short work, as Nietzsche never got around to finishing it, at just over 100 pages. It's kind of depressing to me that a throw away work of Nietzsche's is still written better than anything I could imagine myself being able to do. This to me is better than The Gay Science or Beyond Good and Evil, when Nietzsche was in his Zarathustra phase, which---though good overall--felt scatterbrained and littered with cryptic aphorisms. This, on the other hand, is like the Nietzsche of The Dawn or The Anti-Christ, when he knows what he wants to say because his target is in full view and all he has to do is unload his pent up insights with typical Nietzschean intensity. I can almost guarantee, I think anyway, that even if you think you know everything about the presocratics, you will find something innovative in Nietzche's thought. He makes them come alive in his adoration, especially Anaxagoras.
5/5
Since I haven't rated the other works, I'll do so now. Keep in mind I'm also considering translation:
The Iliad and The Odyssey - 5/5
The Nature of Things - 4/5
The Presocratic Philosophers - 5/5
The History was a fascinating and enjoyable read, and I recommend it to anyone interested in how a 5th-century Greek with a relatively skeptical viewed the world, but more importantly, how they reconstructed history. I think Richard Carrier summed it up well in his essay "Why The Resurrection Is Unbelievable" when he wrote:
Quote:Fifty years after the Persian Wars ended in 479 BC, Herodotus the Halicarnassian asked numerous eyewitnesses and their children about the things that happened in those years and then wrote a book about it. Though he often shows a critical and skeptical mind, sometimes naming his sources and even questioning their reliability when he has suspicious or conflicting accounts, he nevertheless reports without a hint of doubt that the temple of Delphi magically defended itself with animated armaments, lightning bolts, and collapsing cliffs; the sacred olive tree of Athens, though burned by the Persians, grew a new shoot an arm’s length in a single day; a miraculous flood-tide wiped out an entire Persian contingent after they desecrated an image of Poseidon; a horse gave birth to a rabbit; and a whole town witnessed a mass resurrection of cooked fish!There's also some pretty disturbing stories about fathers who were tricked into eating their sons and another few about people getting mutilated or castrated that aren't for the faint of heart. But Herodotus really transported me as a reader into his world, especially when he describes seeing the ancient pyramids which were already 2,000 years old in his day! I can't wait until I come to Thucydides, who apparently takes a few shots at Herodotus in his History of the Peloponnesian War because he thought his rival inferior.
Overall I give it 4/5.
Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks is a short work, as Nietzsche never got around to finishing it, at just over 100 pages. It's kind of depressing to me that a throw away work of Nietzsche's is still written better than anything I could imagine myself being able to do. This to me is better than The Gay Science or Beyond Good and Evil, when Nietzsche was in his Zarathustra phase, which---though good overall--felt scatterbrained and littered with cryptic aphorisms. This, on the other hand, is like the Nietzsche of The Dawn or The Anti-Christ, when he knows what he wants to say because his target is in full view and all he has to do is unload his pent up insights with typical Nietzschean intensity. I can almost guarantee, I think anyway, that even if you think you know everything about the presocratics, you will find something innovative in Nietzche's thought. He makes them come alive in his adoration, especially Anaxagoras.
5/5
Since I haven't rated the other works, I'll do so now. Keep in mind I'm also considering translation:
The Iliad and The Odyssey - 5/5
The Nature of Things - 4/5
The Presocratic Philosophers - 5/5
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