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Question for Atheists
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RE: Question for Atheists
(March 25, 2015 at 1:56 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: I think it would be stupidity compounded to commit suicide after finding out your god or gods don't exist. You are faced with the fact that there is nothing after you die, so you want to hurt up and end that incredibly small (on the cosmic scale) slice of existence you have? Are believers really that stupid? Not all of them, some are EX-believers.

You and others are making some false assumptions about what is in my book. No, I don't believe very many Christians would up and off themselves tomorrow if they found out God didn't exist. By itself. In any case I'm not sure it really matters all that much.

There's also a difference between coming to the realization of something on your own, and then being forced a piece of knowledge you didn't have before and having difficulty swallowing it. When the world you believe to know turns out to be false, then yeah I think that can lead to some depression problems. If severe enough, sure that could lead to suicide. With in the context of the book it will make much more sense I assure you, like I said I don't want to give to much away.

(March 25, 2015 at 1:26 pm)Judi Lynn Wrote:
(March 25, 2015 at 12:54 pm)tonyc4444 Wrote: No, I'm fairly confident in that particular assertion.


No there was no malice of intent on my part, I'm genuinely asking so I don't misrepresent an atheists position on something within the book. I'm not an Atheist so I'd rather not just assume something about an entire group of people and would rather ask the question. There's truly no malice intended here, just serious research for myself.

*words bolded by me to show relevance

Sooo... I see a contradiction here. You "assume" by, as you say, asserting that xians put "country" in their top 3 but at the same time, you don't want to assume something about an entire group of people?

So are xians not a "group" of people?

If you are confident they put "country" in their top three, would you mind providing the source that backs up your reasoning?

As for my three, Family always comes first. Rations second. Freedom third.

My apologies Judi I missed this post before. I don't know what a "Xian" is, I've never heard that term before but in the context you're using it I'll assume you mean Christians, if that's wrong please correct me.

I grew up as a Christian surrounded by Christians here in America. That "assumption" is not so much an assumption as a direct observation. I also served in the Armed forces. If you're Christian in America, there's a very good chance you are also Patriotic. It's truly baffling me that this is news to a few of you. Pick up a newspaper sometime, actually go out and speak to Christians here in this country anyway, it's not a secret of any kind.

But if you want numbers here:

http://www.pewforum.org/2012/02/02/trend...filiation/

These are statistics on the number of Christians who are in the GOP, and I don't really need to give you numbers on whether the GOP is the "Nationalist" party do I?
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Question for Atheists - by tonyc4444 - March 25, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Question for Atheists - by FatAndFaithless - March 25, 2015 at 12:43 pm
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