(April 2, 2015 at 12:12 pm)Lek Wrote: You all seem to have no problem of accepting the reality of suffering until you inject God into the situation. You know that there are disasters, sickness, wars, crime and so on in the world and you just go on dealing with it. Most of the claims that I have heard in this forum state that the person's life is going pretty well despite all the horrors in the world. I don't understand why God must remove all these things from the world in order to be loving, and I do see good coming from suffering. If you give your children everything and shield them from all adversity, all you will end up with is spoiled brats who are unable to fend for themselves. If we approach suffering rightly, it will make us stronger and better people. And I never try to make excuses for God. If he does something a certain way, that's his business. I just try to live with what I have to face, with his help, knowing my goal.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/out...s-stronger
Lek, you can't simply pretend that there isn't suffering in the world that serves absolutely no purpose at all, and yet still happens. What lessons do infants that get killed in natural disasters learn? What strength is my wife's autoimmune disease supposed to confer? It's never going to stop hounding her, there's no way to consistently fight it, what purpose does that needless pain have?
God could remove all of that pain, and yet he doesn't. If I could remove that pain, that would undoubtedly be a morally good act, right? If I could save a baby's life, same deal? And if I had the ability to do both of those, and didn't, that would be an immoral act, right? Can you provide a reason why god should be exempt from those same metrics? Don't cite free will; the genetic disease my wife has has no free will to contravene, nor does the disaster set to take the baby's life. Why is it that god doesn't intervene, and yet you don't consider this immoral?
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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