Milk?

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A tour of a dairy farm will not get you the facts. I'm well aware of the lengths they go to in order to make the whole process look happy, and that the cows even like it.

I know the truth, and almost no one I have ever told had any idea. Asking someone running a dairy farm for the truth is like asking a priest if he thinks God might not exist. You need an independent source.

I won't say more, because it's a very painful subject for me. If anyone is interested in learning the truth, please PM me and I'll send you some information. I don't want to get into an argument about it so I'll leave this thread now.

A better example: thinking you can get the truth with a tour of a dairy farm is like thinking you can get the truth about sweatshops by a tour of them. You see what they want you to see, I'm afraid it's naive to think otherwise.