RE: Mind Over Matter?
April 5, 2015 at 11:41 am
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2015 at 11:45 am by The Grand Nudger.)
LOL, I'll be here if you take a week between responses. I understand.
I would, yeah.
I think that free will, as generally elaborated upon...is folklore. I know that it's -something- aftr all...I experience it as well...but I'm also pretty sure it isn't what we've thought it was all this time that we've been in ignorance of the basic operations (and we still are, to a large part). We'd have to have been pretty damned lucky to get that right by accident. So, I guess the short answer is that I don't conceive of such a free will myself, at all.
The principles of computation - essentially, describe interactions and relationships which we leverage to build computational systems (like computers, clearly). You looking for a booklist or weblink for resources? The principles of computation would apply to any "stuff" that satisfied the conditions of, for example, a NOR gate. Whether that gate is made of toilet papers rolls, digital components - or pixie knuckles.....they will all have one thing in common - they are capable of functioning as a NOR gate. So, if some says "well, I don't think the material brain is doing the computation, i think -immaterial stuff- is doing it" -fine, okay, and this is how material stuff does that, so we know of at least some possible ways that immaterial stuff could achieve the same effect.
If spirits impeded the flow of the aether then they could function as ghostly resistors...which we can build phantom gates out of- which we can build disembodied computational systems out of, in principle. - for example. And what do I think a mind is, again?..... :wink: Try to get a dualist to give you that kind of explanation though...lol - god those hookers are huge on the yappity yap and not so big on building miracle engines...........
I would, yeah.
I think that free will, as generally elaborated upon...is folklore. I know that it's -something- aftr all...I experience it as well...but I'm also pretty sure it isn't what we've thought it was all this time that we've been in ignorance of the basic operations (and we still are, to a large part). We'd have to have been pretty damned lucky to get that right by accident. So, I guess the short answer is that I don't conceive of such a free will myself, at all.
The principles of computation - essentially, describe interactions and relationships which we leverage to build computational systems (like computers, clearly). You looking for a booklist or weblink for resources? The principles of computation would apply to any "stuff" that satisfied the conditions of, for example, a NOR gate. Whether that gate is made of toilet papers rolls, digital components - or pixie knuckles.....they will all have one thing in common - they are capable of functioning as a NOR gate. So, if some says "well, I don't think the material brain is doing the computation, i think -immaterial stuff- is doing it" -fine, okay, and this is how material stuff does that, so we know of at least some possible ways that immaterial stuff could achieve the same effect.
If spirits impeded the flow of the aether then they could function as ghostly resistors...which we can build phantom gates out of- which we can build disembodied computational systems out of, in principle. - for example. And what do I think a mind is, again?..... :wink: Try to get a dualist to give you that kind of explanation though...lol - god those hookers are huge on the yappity yap and not so big on building miracle engines...........
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