RE: Be honest, am I going to hell for "my" atheism?
April 9, 2015 at 7:23 pm
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2015 at 7:27 pm by Lek.)
(April 9, 2015 at 6:45 pm)Iroscato Wrote: Oh, and as for relying on science to solve the next disease or disaster...
Ever contracted smallpox? Didn't think so.
Ever suffered from polio? Me neither!
Ever had to cook your food and keep warm by using an open fire or the warmth of the sun alone? What's that? Electricity you say? Ah, alright then.
Ever caught an infection in your leg and then died a slow agonising death from it? No? Antibiotics, eh? Huh, if you say so.
Ever broken a bone and had absolutely no way of healing it or even seeing the state it's in to have some idea of repairing it? X-rays? Hah! What nonsense!
Ever had your house collapse on you? No? Wonder if basic architectural advancements has something to do with that.
In its relatively short time of existing in its current form, science has saved billions. Your 'God' has so far allowed around 90-120 billion humans to die during the history of homo sapiens sapiens, often in unendurable agony or horrific sickness. I know which one I have more 'faith' in.
I have no argument with you about the benefits that science has enabled us to enjoy and I wouldn't advocate discontinuing scientific research. We have eliminated many of the things which cause us to suffer. The problem is we still suffer. We've cured polio, and now we're we're working on AIDS and ebola. When we find cures for these, there will be other diseases. Cancer has become greatly more prevalent during the last 100 years. We still encounter natural disasters that kill thousands of people each year. Rob was talking about how terrible the world is, having all the disasters, diseases, and other terrible things. He stated that in order to get through life, he had to pretend that these terrible things didn't exist. I brought up that for those of us who believe, God ensures that we get through these experiences well. I have much peace and confidence knowing that whatever happens, l'll always be okay--even if I lose everything I own, or even die.
(April 9, 2015 at 6:36 pm)Iroscato Wrote: 2) After we die, there is nothing waiting for us on the other side. It is quiet, it is peaceful, and you and your consciousness cease to exist.
How do you know this?