RE: Mind Over Matter?
April 9, 2015 at 10:03 pm
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2015 at 10:07 pm by bennyboy.)
(April 7, 2015 at 10:26 am)Rhythm Wrote:Why doesn't all data exchange involve processing? What's the non-arbitrary cut-line between simple "data exchange" and mind-producing "processing"? It seems to me that you are in danger of producing a circle: i.e. processing is whatever a mind thinks represents a useful exchange of data, and non-processing is whatever a mind does not think represents a useful exchange of data.(April 7, 2015 at 8:22 am)bennyboy Wrote: Why isn't all data exchange computation? It all involves input, processing and output. What more is there to computation?For the same reason that an IO port is not a computer...and particularly in that all data exchange -does not- involve processing. That said, showing an exchange of data and processing is a good start, for me, to showing the potential for "mind".
(April 7, 2015 at 12:34 pm)Mezmo! Wrote:(April 7, 2015 at 8:22 am)bennyboy Wrote: Why isn't all data exchange computation? It all involves input, processing and output. What more is there to computation?
An interpreter is needed to assign meaning to the output.
Yes, that's the point I'm getting at. Saying that mind is computation, but requiring a mind to arbitrate between what kinds of data exchange do or do not represent computation, introduces the problem of mind back into the "solution."
