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The argument against God
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RE: The argument against God
(January 24, 2009 at 4:25 pm)Tiberius Wrote:
Quote:I have trouble understanding how a cataclysmic or chaotic event (the Big Bang) has given rise to so much 'order' ie the 'laws' of physics e.g gravity and how this order is maintained?
Unless the laws were brought into being by the multiverse of course, and the multiverse is without time, and thereby existing forever as an uncaused cause Big Grin
And of course, even if its not a multiverse you cannot just fill it with "God did it" or even "there is a reasonable chance that God did it" or even a "pretty small chance that God did it, but still a chance".

Because that would be a God of the gaps. Filling the beginning with a skyhook. If you don't understand something I think its better to wait for the evidence before you believe than to just fill it with a skyhook.

E.g to Fill it with a supernatural creator that there is no evidence of whatsoever and would have to be far far more complex and improbable than the universe itself.

Ergo, as Dawkins says:

God almost certainly does not exist.

He's a lot more improbable than pretty improbable. He's about as improbable as it can get.

And I say he because I'm sick of saying he/she/it and a lot of people consider it a he.

And I don't really see the difference between a non-existent He, She, or It.

Almost certainly of course.

Evf
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The argument against God - by dagda - January 16, 2009 at 12:08 pm
RE: The argument against God - by LukeMC - January 16, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Demonaura - January 16, 2009 at 12:45 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 16, 2009 at 12:50 pm
RE: The argument against God - by lukec - January 16, 2009 at 4:57 pm
RE: The argument against God - by josef rosenkranz - January 16, 2009 at 2:29 pm
RE: The argument against God - by dagda - January 17, 2009 at 5:23 am
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 17, 2009 at 12:14 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 17, 2009 at 12:28 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Ace Otana - January 17, 2009 at 12:36 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Darwinian - January 17, 2009 at 5:31 am
RE: The argument against God - by True Unbeliever - January 18, 2009 at 12:53 am
RE: The argument against God - by dagda - January 19, 2009 at 11:50 am
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 19, 2009 at 2:12 pm
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 19, 2009 at 2:20 pm
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 19, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: The argument against God - by dagda - January 19, 2009 at 3:59 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 19, 2009 at 4:21 pm
RE: The argument against God - by lilphil1989 - January 19, 2009 at 4:29 pm
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 19, 2009 at 4:49 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 19, 2009 at 4:50 pm
RE: The argument against God - by True Unbeliever - January 20, 2009 at 2:03 am
RE: The argument against God - by dagda - January 20, 2009 at 10:14 am
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 20, 2009 at 10:28 am
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 20, 2009 at 3:05 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 20, 2009 at 3:39 pm
RE: The argument against God - by dagda - January 20, 2009 at 2:01 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 20, 2009 at 2:14 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Rob - January 20, 2009 at 3:19 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Demonaura - January 20, 2009 at 3:48 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 20, 2009 at 3:58 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 20, 2009 at 4:05 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 20, 2009 at 4:02 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 20, 2009 at 4:10 pm
RE: The argument against God - by bozo - January 20, 2009 at 6:22 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 21, 2009 at 2:20 pm
RE: The argument against God - by bozo - January 21, 2009 at 3:30 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 21, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: The argument against God - by bozo - January 21, 2009 at 3:49 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 21, 2009 at 3:05 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 21, 2009 at 5:10 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 21, 2009 at 5:34 pm
RE: The argument against God - by bozo - January 21, 2009 at 8:20 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 22, 2009 at 3:59 am
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 22, 2009 at 6:35 am
RE: The argument against God - by True Unbeliever - January 22, 2009 at 2:53 am
RE: The argument against God - by LukeMC - January 21, 2009 at 4:11 pm
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 22, 2009 at 6:17 am
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 22, 2009 at 7:52 am
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 22, 2009 at 9:24 am
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 22, 2009 at 9:59 am
RE: The argument against God - by nobelives - January 23, 2009 at 1:34 am
RE: The argument against God - by True Unbeliever - January 23, 2009 at 5:09 am
RE: The argument against God - by Darwinian - January 23, 2009 at 5:13 am
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 23, 2009 at 5:23 am
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 23, 2009 at 5:36 am
RE: The argument against God - by Edwardo Piet - January 23, 2009 at 11:04 am
RE: The argument against God - by Ace Otana - January 23, 2009 at 11:26 am
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 23, 2009 at 12:09 pm
RE: The argument against God - by nobelives - January 23, 2009 at 12:22 pm
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 23, 2009 at 12:36 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 23, 2009 at 1:30 pm
RE: The argument against God - by lilphil1989 - January 23, 2009 at 1:46 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 23, 2009 at 1:56 pm
RE: The argument against God - by lilphil1989 - January 23, 2009 at 2:28 pm
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 23, 2009 at 3:01 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Ace Otana - January 23, 2009 at 9:03 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 23, 2009 at 3:08 pm
RE: The argument against God - by lilphil1989 - January 23, 2009 at 3:35 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Giff - January 24, 2009 at 8:25 am
RE: The argument against God - by Rob - January 24, 2009 at 9:09 am
RE: The argument against God - by Ace Otana - January 24, 2009 at 10:18 am
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 24, 2009 at 10:04 am
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 24, 2009 at 10:25 am
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 24, 2009 at 12:08 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 24, 2009 at 5:13 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 24, 2009 at 5:42 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 25, 2009 at 7:49 am
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 25, 2009 at 3:13 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Darwinian - January 24, 2009 at 12:19 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 24, 2009 at 3:43 pm
RE: The argument against God - by LukeMC - January 24, 2009 at 4:19 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Darwinian - January 24, 2009 at 3:56 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Darwinian - January 24, 2009 at 4:24 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 24, 2009 at 4:25 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Edwardo Piet - January 24, 2009 at 9:23 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Darwinian - January 24, 2009 at 7:52 pm
RE: The argument against God - by True Unbeliever - January 24, 2009 at 11:34 pm
RE: The argument against God - by chatpilot - January 25, 2009 at 1:06 am
RE: The argument against God - by lukec - January 26, 2009 at 12:29 pm

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