(June 12, 2015 at 2:34 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:(June 12, 2015 at 12:10 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So, despite the fact that I very specifically quoted areas of the paper demonstrating that it does not point to a beginning of all universes, period, just a beginning to our current expansion model, despite the fact that actually, the scientific consensus tends to agree with me, that we aren't equipped to properly measure beyond that point yet, you're still going to insist, on the basis of Youtube apologists and a scientific paper that has been demonstrated not to say what you think it says, that actually the science says something totally opposite to that?
Based upon your understanding of the best science currently available, did the universe have a beginning or not?
We don't know. Therefore Zeus. Checkmate, atheist scum!!
Just....don't. It's getting painful.