(June 14, 2015 at 12:20 am)ILuvGorillas Wrote: I know this has probably been discussed alot on here but wanted to know your opinion on the way i view it
I was recently watching this very horrific serial killer case on YT where this guy tortured and killed kids and i see in the comments how he is evil and will burn in hell etc. Now being an atheist i obv don't believe in hell but I am still torn between just how things like free will/evil should be viewed. The way i see it is anything you do/how you act is predetermined by your genetics and environment and that even tho it may seem like you are in control of yourself, in reality that's not how it is.
Like yes, the guy was calculating and obviously knew it was wrong but something drove him to do it and I believe it all just comes back to nature and mental illness. anything you do good or bad shouldn't be attributed to your own 100x doing if im making sense? even tho yes it is you,....but its all luck.
With no free will, logically-ish, law and morality just become issues of practicality. We can't have people murdering folks, so we try to set up a system that deters it as much as possible.
Interestingly, maybe that's a part of what religion is as well. Another layer of deterrent meant to be an environmental manipulator of the genetics. So the comment-ers talking nonsense about burning in hell are reinforcing the idea to others that they shouldn't murder people because they will go to hell.
As for the consistency Benny-Boy is looking for across threads:
1) Different discussions revolve around different perspectives. Some include free will, others don't.
2) I don't know that any of us are certain about free will's existence/non-existence.
3) Shaking the idea of free will is a complicated given that the illusion is coming from inside the house.
