RE: Church and State
June 24, 2015 at 9:35 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2015 at 9:42 pm by das_atheist.)
(June 24, 2015 at 9:25 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:(June 24, 2015 at 9:09 pm)das_atheist Wrote: Lets say that a nonreligious family only has early school records of their child, and that's not enough to get a passport.
Lets say that a religious family has the same early school records as the nonreligious family, but also has religious records. Should that child be given a passport while the other child is denied a passport?
If the child doesn't have a birth certificate, there are plenty of combinations the government will accept, including religious ones. For children whose parents are unbelievers, what would you suggest replace the religious records? Are you saying that shouldn't be an option for anyone at all?
I guess I really don't understand what the problem is, here (save for the family Bible thing... wut???). As someone who is going through some gnarly immigration stuff (trying to get my Australian boyfriend to the US), it's actually rather nice to see more options instead of less for people trying to obtain a passport.
My point is that religious records shouldn't tip the scales. It encourages undocumented families to go to church with their children. It gives the church power over people since they can delete your records if you leave the faith. I'm sure some Islamic mosks would be doing that since apostasy carries the death penalty.
(June 24, 2015 at 9:26 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(June 24, 2015 at 9:22 pm)das_atheist Wrote: The question is, would there be a case where a religious record would tip the scales in favor of getting a passport? My guess is yes, otherwise they wouldn't ask for it.The yes answer may be correct. I hope that the religious documentation would be one of the last pieces of evidence in a long line of evidence that they consider.
So the atheist who cant produce that last piece of evidence is out of luck.
