RE: Do you have the right to be an atheist?
July 6, 2015 at 2:18 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2015 at 2:22 pm by Excited Penguin.)
Pool, theists exist. Why do they exist? Well, to answer that we would have to understand the concept of theism and what it implies for a theist.
Theism implies a belief in a supernatural entity, like a god or gods. So for the existence of a theist to be possible there has to be a person who has a belief in such a thing - God. This does not address the question of the validity of his belief though, simply the existence of the belief itself. The fact of the matter is, beliefs exist independent of what they imply because beliefs are simply constructs of the mind. They exist in the mind of the believer. They are abstract things but they exist nonetheless. Get it? Beliefs exist. And, more importantly, so do believers. Just as atheists doo. Just as about any other idea out there. Ideas exist indifferent of what they represent. So god is just an idea. It exists as such - as an idea. So does a believer in God - he exists as an idea first and foremost. We sometimes use ideas to describe objects, people and even other ideas that already describe their own objects and people.
Ideas are things that exist. We think them, say them out loud and generally share them with each other. Therefore they exist. Just so, we talk about God and theists and therefore they exist, but in a slightly different manner from each other or by certain varying degrees. Because, see, theists have their immediate equivalents in reality - real people with real thoughts that happen to have an idea of God and hold on to that idea as something real, even though it's not real by any standart. Gods have as of yet no such equivalents in reality. Therefore they describe in fact nothing pertaining to the real world - at least not at first sight. That doesn't invalidate their existence as ideas though.
In conclusion, and to simplify this daunting block of text, theists are simply one of many constructs that help as describe different aspects of reality. In that sense, anything language touches is real, but it's paramount to understand the degree to what something can be real. Can you touch a theist? Does it have in that sense an equivalent outside of the mind, does it go about in the physical world? Why yes, in fact, you can find very many of them if you just go in a place of worship, like a church, or a mosque. These are real beings, that we happen to describe for the different things they represent. We call them theists whenever they happen to hold a belief in God. But of course theism means nothing in and of itself. It is merely an attachment to the human being, something to describe him by, something to distinguish him from a person who doesn't happen to believe in a God, like a Buddhist for example.
That the world(meaning all of humanity) isn't rational enough for us not to have to even discuss or know about such an irrational concept like God is a sad thing but it is a part of reality nonetheless. You can deny it all you want but theists do exist because humans exists and some humans have been known to hold beliefs in gods. That's all there is to it.
I hope I covered it.
Theism implies a belief in a supernatural entity, like a god or gods. So for the existence of a theist to be possible there has to be a person who has a belief in such a thing - God. This does not address the question of the validity of his belief though, simply the existence of the belief itself. The fact of the matter is, beliefs exist independent of what they imply because beliefs are simply constructs of the mind. They exist in the mind of the believer. They are abstract things but they exist nonetheless. Get it? Beliefs exist. And, more importantly, so do believers. Just as atheists doo. Just as about any other idea out there. Ideas exist indifferent of what they represent. So god is just an idea. It exists as such - as an idea. So does a believer in God - he exists as an idea first and foremost. We sometimes use ideas to describe objects, people and even other ideas that already describe their own objects and people.
Ideas are things that exist. We think them, say them out loud and generally share them with each other. Therefore they exist. Just so, we talk about God and theists and therefore they exist, but in a slightly different manner from each other or by certain varying degrees. Because, see, theists have their immediate equivalents in reality - real people with real thoughts that happen to have an idea of God and hold on to that idea as something real, even though it's not real by any standart. Gods have as of yet no such equivalents in reality. Therefore they describe in fact nothing pertaining to the real world - at least not at first sight. That doesn't invalidate their existence as ideas though.
In conclusion, and to simplify this daunting block of text, theists are simply one of many constructs that help as describe different aspects of reality. In that sense, anything language touches is real, but it's paramount to understand the degree to what something can be real. Can you touch a theist? Does it have in that sense an equivalent outside of the mind, does it go about in the physical world? Why yes, in fact, you can find very many of them if you just go in a place of worship, like a church, or a mosque. These are real beings, that we happen to describe for the different things they represent. We call them theists whenever they happen to hold a belief in God. But of course theism means nothing in and of itself. It is merely an attachment to the human being, something to describe him by, something to distinguish him from a person who doesn't happen to believe in a God, like a Buddhist for example.
That the world(meaning all of humanity) isn't rational enough for us not to have to even discuss or know about such an irrational concept like God is a sad thing but it is a part of reality nonetheless. You can deny it all you want but theists do exist because humans exists and some humans have been known to hold beliefs in gods. That's all there is to it.
I hope I covered it.