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How old is the Earth?
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RE: How old is the Earth?
(October 13, 2010 at 6:22 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Haha wow you really are all over the place aren't you? Throwing around light theory mixed in with the Doctrines of Grace and John Calvin. This must be the ADHD method of discussion haha. Actually many Scientists are moving away from the Isotropic Light Model because it provides a lot of time problems for the big bang. I think the an-isotropic model is a more valid model. Which can be summed up by the Astrophysicist Robert Newton as follows...
Granted I'm not fully nuanced as far as what is and isn't popular in science today, but I'm fairly (read: fully) certain that people who study things that involves the speed of light still agree with Einstein's Theory of Relativity, which explicitly states what the speed of light can and cannot be, which is still quite the foundation of modern physics as it has always been in the past century or so.
I'm also quite certain that a variable speed of light is not accepted among the scientific body becuase of all the other laws of physics that would violate that have been proven empirically time and time again.
Astronomy, which is extremely consistent and extremely precise in measuring these little details absolutely depend on relativity and each discovery is a result of the correctitiude of Einstein's theorum.
Whatever 'astrophysicists' you've drudged up to say otherwise are wrong and can easily be proven as such. The videos I've linked on the Young Earth thread you posted proves that beyond a reasonable doubt as does high school and college physics.

(October 13, 2010 at 6:22 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: So this would mean that whenever you observe something happen in Space it actually just happened, rather than 13 billion years ago or however many light-years the object is away. This model holds up in all the tests so it really is an exciting new approach.
What tests? The actual experts in this field and the people who observe space for a living all seem to think that light travels at a constant speed, which is consistent with all observations everywhere at any time with a consistency greater than virtually anything else that has ever been observed in the universe to the point to where we can measure the different speeds in which waves of light travel within light itself, like a ripple in a pond.
That is how precise our measurements are.

(October 13, 2010 at 6:22 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: That assumes an isotropic propagation of light. Which of course is an Old-Earth presuppostion.
Which is once again, based on empirical evidence.

(October 13, 2010 at 6:22 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Well you have emperical evidence to support a conclusion. You do not have emperical proof that your conclusion is one hundred percent accurate.
Nothing is one hundred percent accurate. Ever.
Claims to the contrary is something that religion does erroneously.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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How old is the Earth? - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 1:18 am
RE: How old is the Earth? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 1:40 am
RE: How old is the Earth? - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 3:37 am
RE: How old is the Earth? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 5:02 am
RE: How old is the Earth? - by Anomalocaris - October 13, 2010 at 5:33 am
RE: How old is the Earth? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 2:32 pm
RE: How old is the Earth? - by Loki_999 - October 13, 2010 at 5:11 am
RE: How old is the Earth? - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 2:14 pm
RE: How old is the Earth? - by Minimalist - October 13, 2010 at 2:03 am
RE: How old is the Earth? - by Anomalocaris - October 13, 2010 at 3:09 am
RE: How old is the Earth? - by Anomalocaris - October 13, 2010 at 3:56 am
RE: How old is the Earth? - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 2:05 pm
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RE: How old is the Earth? - by Shell B - October 13, 2010 at 2:39 pm
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RE: How old is the Earth? - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 2:22 pm
RE: How old is the Earth? - by Shell B - October 13, 2010 at 2:26 pm
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RE: How old is the Earth? - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 3:53 pm
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RE: How old is the Earth? - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 6:22 pm
RE: How old is the Earth? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 6:47 pm
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