RE: Question About Creationists
May 20, 2012 at 10:14 pm
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2012 at 10:16 pm by libalchris.)
(May 20, 2012 at 9:35 pm)Abishalom Wrote:(May 20, 2012 at 8:15 pm)Phil Wrote: Some people are so stupid if they think they can learn anything about genetics from AIG, The Discovery Institute, Michael Behe, William Dembski and possibly Wikipedia. If someone is so stupid to think the only evidence for the human-ape common ancestry is the chromosome fusion, they have no right wasting the oxygen of the rest of the human population.
Some people are so stupid if they think that the argument presented was extracted from said resources. If someone is so stupid to think there is actual evidence to support common descent...well even the ignorant deserve to live so there's plenty of oxygen to go around.
It's always funny when people keep denying the evidence that's there.
Such as the fossil record: (australopithecus, homo erectus, homo habilis, homo neanderthalensis)
the developmental evidence (like the fact that embryos go through a stage where they become covered in hair called lanugo that serves no purpose and is eventually reabsorbed, but in other primates stays and goes on to become the primate's full coat of hair)
the DNA evidence (shared ERVs, ALUs, pseudogenes, the fusion of Chromosome 2)
Also, the point isn't that we do or don't know what every bit of DNA in chimps and humans does, the point is that the fused chromosome in humans, are the same chromosomes that were missing from chimp chromosomes. We don't need to know what every bit of the chromosome does for that to be true
(May 20, 2012 at 8:07 pm)Abishalom Wrote: I've done some reading on this issue. That's where I got my information from. All scientists are doing to make this claim is using observed events and stretching them to fit their imagination. It goes a little like this...since there is evidence of telomere fusion in chromosome 2 for humans and none for said chromosomes in apes this suggests common ancestry of apes/humans. Do you see the faulty logic? A single fusion incident has never been documented to make such drastic changes in organisms. Also, you're underestimating the implications of the vast amount of unknown of the human genome function. Don't worry the scientists that are making these claims are doing the same thing (they did the same thing with the field of genetics in the first place)...
You're correct, nobody said that the chromosomal fusion was what made us so different from chimps, it is just what helped start the divergence. And as I said in my last post, not knowing what all the DNA does doesn't have any implication for the chromosomal fusion. Why the heck would it? You never explained that.