RE: The Brain=Mind Fallacy
May 31, 2012 at 10:23 pm
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2012 at 10:29 pm by Brian37.)
(May 31, 2012 at 5:26 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(May 31, 2012 at 5:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I HATE THE WORD "MIND" it is a bullshit word. We are merely literally our brains. What you call "mind" is not what we are claiming.Begging the question. You assert as fact the question at hand. Correlation is not causation.
For those stuck on See Spot Run and suffering from A.D.D.
Brain=you
Cant dumb it down any more than that for you. Sorry if I am using too many big words for you.
(May 31, 2012 at 5:14 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote:(May 31, 2012 at 4:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: "Thoughts" don't do anything, the word "thought" is a place card word to an abstraction. You are accusing the "speed" of the car as being the car itself.
"thoughts" are merely the outcome of our material processes, much like 55mph is the observation of "speed" of the car. Speed is not a thing, but a description of the material process of the car moving faster.
We do have reactions to thoughts when we have them or express them in physical communication. Just like if we were crossing the street and we would react to the "speed" of the physical car if it were headed at us.
We have neurons that can be measured and we have brain activity that can be measured. Doctors can hook electrodes to your head, or put you in a CT tube, and measure your brain activity when you think about certain things. Just like we cant trap speed without a car, but we can use a speed gun to determine how fast the car is going.
This is the misconception even atheists can have about science is strictly about the material. No, science is about anything that can be observed. Just like we don't know what is in the center of a black whole, but we can see what it does to light when it gets to the event horizon.
To understand the mistake you are making. I would suggest reading both Victor Stenger's "God The Failed Hypothesis" and "The New Atheism".
Oh, before I forget:
First time I've ever awarded a flawless victory jpg.
Savor it Brian, savor it. -.-
Awe man, couldn't I get a "Sonja Wins". The blond in the original game was H AND O AND T. But thanks in any case.