How this discussion will probably unfold:
Theist: Well some people are born bad and disbelieve where as others become bad and disbelieve.
Atheist: Doesn't God know whos going to be a disbeliever full stop? Why doesn't he just not create them?
Theist: Everyone is subject to freewill, their beliefs are their choice.
Atheist: But God is supposedly omnipotent, that would mean he knows how everything will take place whether freewill is involved or not. Doesn't it?
Theist: The mind of God isn't known to me, what his intentions are I cannot say.
Atheist: As far as I know it isn't known to anyone, ever. There isn't even any evidence a God has ever existed.
Theist: Judging from your standard of evidence, yes.
Atheist: What is your standard of evidence?
Theist: I know God to be real through personal experience, I am blessed by his presence. That is my evidence.
Atheist: Can you prove that to be anything other than excess dopamine and adrenaline brought on by a delusion? In short, do you have anything other than a feeling?
Theist: The presence of God is transcendent, it isn't something that can be tested. (random bible passage)
Atheist: How convenient, well in that case I have an invisible friend whos far more powerful than your God and equally immune to testing.
Theist: You're lying.
Atheist: Now what makes you say that?
Theist: I'm done, you're obviously too stupid to come up with a reasonable argument.
Atheist: Really? I thought I just mirrored your stance. Insults and a retreat, typical. I'd explain what burden of proof is but I don't want to pay for cleaning up the mess it'd cause when your head explodes from trying to hold an intelligent thought.
RaphielDrake: *ziiiip* *FLOP* :-)
Theist: ...
Atheist: ...
RaphielDrake: Awwww yeeeeeah.
Theist: Well some people are born bad and disbelieve where as others become bad and disbelieve.
Atheist: Doesn't God know whos going to be a disbeliever full stop? Why doesn't he just not create them?
Theist: Everyone is subject to freewill, their beliefs are their choice.
Atheist: But God is supposedly omnipotent, that would mean he knows how everything will take place whether freewill is involved or not. Doesn't it?
Theist: The mind of God isn't known to me, what his intentions are I cannot say.
Atheist: As far as I know it isn't known to anyone, ever. There isn't even any evidence a God has ever existed.
Theist: Judging from your standard of evidence, yes.
Atheist: What is your standard of evidence?
Theist: I know God to be real through personal experience, I am blessed by his presence. That is my evidence.
Atheist: Can you prove that to be anything other than excess dopamine and adrenaline brought on by a delusion? In short, do you have anything other than a feeling?
Theist: The presence of God is transcendent, it isn't something that can be tested. (random bible passage)
Atheist: How convenient, well in that case I have an invisible friend whos far more powerful than your God and equally immune to testing.
Theist: You're lying.
Atheist: Now what makes you say that?
Theist: I'm done, you're obviously too stupid to come up with a reasonable argument.
Atheist: Really? I thought I just mirrored your stance. Insults and a retreat, typical. I'd explain what burden of proof is but I don't want to pay for cleaning up the mess it'd cause when your head explodes from trying to hold an intelligent thought.
RaphielDrake: *ziiiip* *FLOP* :-)
Theist: ...
Atheist: ...
RaphielDrake: Awwww yeeeeeah.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
- Abdul Alhazred.
