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proof of end times?
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RE: proof of end times?
I cannot fear satan, god or anything of the sort because I do not believe it. Evidence still applys.

I know you cannot bring evidence because you cannot prove something that does not exist.

Now, even if there was a god and you proved it. I still would not worship. Never!
I am completely independent, religion is dying and the time for superstitions will come to an end. I cannot allow personal beliefs to effect my judgement. I will use study, research and evidence to conclude the answers, not faith.

In my mind and in this reality, there is no such thing as a god. It is made up entirely from an overactive imagination of an adult. We are just self aware biological lifeforms doomed to fade back into non-existence.

God is a claim, an unproven claim. Just because you make the claim doesn't automatically warrant my belief. If everything warranted an instant belief then I'd still be waiting for santa claws to deliver the gifts. I need evidence and yes evidence still applies. Science uses it all the time. Religion doesn't have any and so I can see why your evading it.

Nothing on this earth or anywhere else supports the existence of god. What reason is there to believe in an invisible, flying, all knowing, believed to be all loving and always existed even when there has never been any form of evidence?

Sorry, but evidence still applys. Without it, this debate is over. You cannot convince me of god with hell or heaven. You cannot convince me of a god through life/existence since I've already had the question answered by science.

Quote:Yes, I agree with you. There are hundreds of god stories. If you visit Iran, they will talk until they are blue in the face that the Koran is the Holy word of Allah. But if you visit Israel, they will say Yahweh is the one and only true God. YOU have to decide for yourself which God should you worship?

My answer would be - neither. God or not I will not worship. Also I don't believe in any god. Reason - no evidence.

Quote:God is not harming you in any manner. You are harming yourself. He gave you life

Evidence of this please.....

Quote:Once again you use that "lack of evidence" argument. That cannot possibly make sense. Until the day we have totally explored every square inch of the Universe, no one can logically use the "lack of evidence" argument against God.

Ok, now evidence of gravity is constant, since everytime you drop something, your proving gravity through test and study which means evidence. Gravity is only a theory, but it happens all the time. Weve got the evidence for it and yet we have not explored the whole universe to gain evidence. Its the same for god, the only thing is that, you have no evidence. Evidence doesn't mean having to know everything, it's what you've found through study, research with detectable material. You cannot tell us what god is make of, or where he is. Just "he's there".
If god wants me to believe, he better start trying harder.

I cannot accept faith alone. I need evidence and yes it applies! Without it, would mean there would be no supporting evidence to say it's reasonable to follow. Right now, I see no reason to believe you. Nothing supports your claims.

So, once again.....evidence please.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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proof of end times? - by locboxx - September 28, 2008 at 6:46 am
RE: proof of end times? - by StewartP - September 28, 2008 at 6:56 am
RE: proof of end times? - by StewartP - September 28, 2008 at 10:12 am
RE: proof of end times? - by StewartP - October 2, 2008 at 9:19 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Tiberius - September 28, 2008 at 12:19 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - September 28, 2008 at 2:38 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Edwardo Piet - September 29, 2008 at 9:23 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Giff - September 29, 2008 at 12:06 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Edwardo Piet - September 29, 2008 at 6:27 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - October 2, 2008 at 10:19 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - October 2, 2008 at 10:58 am
RE: proof of end times? - by chatpilot - October 2, 2008 at 11:36 am
RE: proof of end times? - by imans - October 2, 2008 at 12:46 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by StewartP - October 2, 2008 at 1:10 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by chatpilot - October 3, 2008 at 11:24 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - October 2, 2008 at 1:29 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Abaddon - October 2, 2008 at 3:50 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by StewartP - October 2, 2008 at 10:43 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - October 3, 2008 at 7:10 am
RE: proof of end times? - by imans - October 3, 2008 at 7:27 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - October 3, 2008 at 7:45 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Tiberius - October 3, 2008 at 2:28 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Tiberius - October 3, 2008 at 3:14 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Tiberius - October 3, 2008 at 5:38 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - October 3, 2008 at 7:35 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Tiberius - October 4, 2008 at 12:17 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - October 4, 2008 at 11:21 am
RE: proof of end times? - by StewartP - October 5, 2008 at 12:52 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - October 5, 2008 at 5:15 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by StewartP - October 5, 2008 at 6:40 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - October 5, 2008 at 6:57 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Edwardo Piet - October 5, 2008 at 10:22 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by chatpilot - October 8, 2008 at 1:24 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by josef rosenkranz - October 9, 2008 at 12:52 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by chatpilot - October 9, 2008 at 3:07 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - October 10, 2008 at 3:16 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Meatball - October 10, 2008 at 5:28 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - October 10, 2008 at 8:05 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Edwardo Piet - October 10, 2008 at 8:36 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - October 11, 2008 at 7:17 am
RE: proof of end times? - by chatpilot - October 11, 2008 at 11:20 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Rob - October 19, 2008 at 1:19 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Psalm 23 - November 28, 2008 at 12:30 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Tiberius - November 28, 2008 at 1:34 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Psalm 23 - November 28, 2008 at 2:24 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by allan175 - November 29, 2008 at 7:43 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - November 29, 2008 at 8:47 am
RE: proof of end times? - by allan175 - November 29, 2008 at 8:52 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Psalm 23 - November 29, 2008 at 11:43 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Edwardo Piet - November 29, 2008 at 11:55 am
RE: proof of end times? - by leo-rcc - November 28, 2008 at 2:57 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Psalm 23 - November 28, 2008 at 3:11 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by leo-rcc - November 28, 2008 at 3:44 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Psalm 23 - November 28, 2008 at 4:15 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by leo-rcc - November 28, 2008 at 4:20 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Tiberius - November 28, 2008 at 4:53 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by CoxRox - November 28, 2008 at 5:06 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Tiberius - November 28, 2008 at 5:11 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by CoxRox - November 28, 2008 at 5:21 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Edwardo Piet - November 29, 2008 at 10:27 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Psalm 23 - November 29, 2008 at 12:56 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by allan175 - November 29, 2008 at 1:08 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Psalm 23 - November 29, 2008 at 1:16 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Edwardo Piet - November 29, 2008 at 1:37 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Psalm 23 - November 29, 2008 at 2:01 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Edwardo Piet - November 29, 2008 at 9:50 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - November 29, 2008 at 2:50 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Psalm 23 - November 29, 2008 at 3:17 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - November 29, 2008 at 2:53 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Tiberius - November 29, 2008 at 2:58 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - November 29, 2008 at 3:14 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Tiberius - November 29, 2008 at 3:42 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Psalm 23 - November 29, 2008 at 6:09 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Tiberius - November 30, 2008 at 6:12 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Edwardo Piet - November 30, 2008 at 9:27 am
RE: proof of end times? - by Psalm 23 - November 30, 2008 at 4:08 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - November 29, 2008 at 4:38 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - November 29, 2008 at 6:52 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Psalm 23 - November 29, 2008 at 9:20 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Ace Otana - November 29, 2008 at 9:45 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Tiberius - November 30, 2008 at 5:23 pm
RE: proof of end times? - by Edwardo Piet - November 30, 2008 at 6:58 pm

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