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AF Hall of Fallacies
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies
(January 4, 2017 at 2:08 am)robvalue Wrote: It's sort of a slippery slope fallacy I guess, as well. If this is true, then this other thing which is a bit like it is also true, and then this other thing is also true and...

The way I learnt of the Gish Gallop, many years ago, is that it is a bombardment of questions, one after the other, giving one no time to answer one question in particular because each have complex answer. In that sense, it's a rhetorical device used to shut down conversation by shoveling on so many assumptions that unraveling them takes so much time that the audience does of boredom, losing sight of the original point: "Aha, but you didn't answer this, therefore I'm right!" is the explicit or assumed conclusion.

(January 4, 2017 at 2:35 am)Astonished Wrote:
(January 4, 2017 at 2:18 am)robvalue Wrote: Exactly, yeah. I can't think of a specific name for that. It's one of a number of dishonest techniques.

Like Thump said, it's a string of non sequiturs.

You know, I've really got to start talking with some more of my friends who are interested in reforming the English language to accommodate the evolution of words. We can invent new ones for things like that, and what with new gender identity terms and such, there's room for new words in other contexts too. Personally I'm more interested in reforming the standard English alphabet, and giving each sound its own character, and getting rid of some of the unnecessary things like C, which can easily be replaced by 'S' and 'K'. But that's kind of off-topic. Still, it would be nice if this particular set of fallacious add-ons had a formal name, possibly even if there are certain specific variations of it. Like if you're just trying to sneak one extra caveat in, or if you shoehorn several. And if they're at least closely related or completely disconnected non-sequiturs.

The beauty of the English language is that it is so malleable. "Gish Gallop" is an example, recruiting the metaphor of a horse at full speed to describe a barrage of questions launched so quickly that invariably one or more gets missed, launching the "Aha!" phase.

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AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 22, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by festive1 - May 22, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 22, 2013 at 8:28 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tonus - May 22, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 22, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 22, 2013 at 10:14 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 2:34 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Darth - May 22, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 22, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 23, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 23, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 23, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 23, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by CapnAwesome - May 26, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 26, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by CapnAwesome - May 26, 2013 at 10:14 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 26, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by CapnAwesome - May 27, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 28, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Whateverist - May 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by fr0d0 - June 1, 2013 at 5:35 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by shep - February 23, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by H.sapiens - March 26, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Athene - March 26, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by One Above All - May 23, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by One Above All - May 23, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 23, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 23, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 23, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by One Above All - May 23, 2013 at 4:50 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 23, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Neo-Scholastic - May 23, 2013 at 7:50 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by catfish - May 23, 2013 at 9:14 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by fr0d0 - May 24, 2013 at 10:43 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Mister Agenda - May 24, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 24, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tiberius - May 24, 2013 at 3:11 pm
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RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 24, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 28, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 24, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by fr0d0 - May 24, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by fr0d0 - May 24, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 24, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 24, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by KichigaiNeko - May 24, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Angrboda - May 25, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 25, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 25, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 26, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 28, 2013 at 3:53 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 29, 2013 at 11:14 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Gilgamesh - May 26, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 26, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 26, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 26, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by ideologue08 - May 26, 2013 at 9:34 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Minimalist - May 28, 2013 at 2:05 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Mister Agenda - May 28, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 28, 2013 at 5:18 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Mister Agenda - June 3, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - June 5, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 30, 2013 at 4:41 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - June 3, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tiberius - June 1, 2013 at 8:13 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - June 3, 2013 at 4:52 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Faith No More - June 1, 2013 at 8:18 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tkcjpii - October 27, 2013 at 8:56 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Faith No More - October 27, 2013 at 9:01 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Doubting Thomas - October 28, 2013 at 9:00 am
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RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by downbeatplumb - October 28, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by bennyboy - October 28, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by EgoRaptor - February 23, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Angrboda - February 23, 2014 at 9:59 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - February 25, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 2:32 pm
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RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by LastPoet - April 17, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by CapnAwesome - April 19, 2015 at 11:00 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Edwardo Piet - May 4, 2015 at 2:46 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by LastPoet - March 26, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Soldat Du Christ - October 23, 2016 at 1:58 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tonus - December 9, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by downbeatplumb - December 9, 2016 at 1:53 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 12:01 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 12:43 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2017 at 12:48 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 12:49 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:38 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 2:03 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 2:06 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 2:08 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 2:13 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2017 at 8:46 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 2:18 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 2:35 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 6:43 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2017 at 5:44 pm

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