RE: Is there anything new under the sun to say about religion?
February 28, 2014 at 2:02 pm
(This post was last modified: February 28, 2014 at 2:02 pm by Tonus.)
DeistPaladin had suggested a stickied thread with links to the more common topics that we see when some theist joins because he thought he had a killer point to make. I recall that it basically got filibustered into nothingness.
I am more disappointed that once we get past the initial trading of ideas and thoughts, we almost always fall into one of two patterns. Either the theist goes into Preach Mode or into Gaps Mode, or some version thereof. I think it might be all that is left. Being told that, in effect, we cannot possibly ever prove god is an admission of defeat for many of us who spent a very long time trying to find god and reaching that conclusion ourselves. To me, someone who tells me that we can never prove god is just a step away from realizing that they are atheists, too.
I am more disappointed that once we get past the initial trading of ideas and thoughts, we almost always fall into one of two patterns. Either the theist goes into Preach Mode or into Gaps Mode, or some version thereof. I think it might be all that is left. Being told that, in effect, we cannot possibly ever prove god is an admission of defeat for many of us who spent a very long time trying to find god and reaching that conclusion ourselves. To me, someone who tells me that we can never prove god is just a step away from realizing that they are atheists, too.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
