(November 26, 2014 at 10:36 am)Nope Wrote: Robby Pants, you explained perfectly my problem with free will. When something obviously evil occurs, my Christian friends respond very knowingly that we have free will so god had nothing to do with the murder of innocent children. They never go further and question why we have free will in the first place.
We havve no free will. Romans 11, why didn't the Jews believe in Jesus? God hardened their hearts no to. Since free will does not matter to God, why not make all men believers? See Romans 8 and 9. God decides who will be elect and reprobate.
Predestination, from the beginning of time God decided these things. What free will. Augustine, Martin Luther, Calvin and others admitted we have no free will, see Luther's Bondage of the Will for an excellent example of this.
How do these theologians deal with this? Admit God is responsible for moral evil? No, the claim God is inscrutable and incomprehensible. So logic, reason and rationality are abandoned, following Paul's example in Romans 11:33.
11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
When logic destroys your theology, just stop being rational. This irrationality then is the heart and soul of Christianity. Islam is just as bad.
Cheerful Charlie
If I saw a man beating a tied up dog, I couldn't prove it was wrong, but I'd know it was wrong.
- Attributed to Mark Twain
If I saw a man beating a tied up dog, I couldn't prove it was wrong, but I'd know it was wrong.
- Attributed to Mark Twain
