(October 31, 2015 at 11:30 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: how did the first replicator molecule know how to do Abiogenesis or how to mutate ? did it just decide to do it on their own what do you think? replicator molecules were inclined to do that for some reason and did it for some reason
Why would a molecule "know" anything?
You pair up an oxygen atom with two protons and a tiny bit of energy and PRESTO! You have three atoms that "know" how to make a water molecule.
You subject that water molecule (along with a few of its friends) to conditions which take away its heat, and it will freeze into hexagonal patterns, based on the bent-angle shape of the water molecule.
None of this is based on "knowing how", but on simply being molecules of a particular shape in particular conditions. Since we have a really big and widely-varied planet, it should hardly surprise you that somewhere was the right set of conditions for the particular reaction to occur which gave us the first replicator-molecules.
Because carbon has such an affinity for making bonds (it's the reason we're carbon-based life, and likely so is everything else in the universe, if there's more out there), organic molecules form everywhere we look, all the time, all on their own. Even in comets and asteroids floating in the deeps of space, there is organic chemistry going on. We can tell by studying the vibration-frequencies of the molecules, which emit certain electromagnetic frequencies which we can detect at long distances; this is also how we tell what our sun in made out of, and it's a frequency-pattern experiment I conducted in college physics, which you also can conduct in your own basement with a prism, light, and some measuring tape.
We have found that warm water causes fatty acids (also naturally occurring-- you see them in sea foam when a wave crashes against the rocks) to "bead up" into balls called protocells, which can harbor and shelter the early replicators. NASA/JPL has already demonstrated the creation of protocells from a cometary impact, using just the chemicals found on asteroids/comets we have found fallen to earth. Radiation in deep space "tickles" the carbon and other atoms in deep space ices, comets and such, to form complex organic chemicals like glycoaldehyde, a precursor and simple version of the sugars which make up most of our DNA-- we have also tested this in labs.
It's still undergoing confirmation testing, but there are actually a team of scientists who think they've found the way that conditions on the earth, when comets were still routinely falling from the sky because the Solar System was young and still chaotic, caused the formation of the molecules you think can't exist.
http://phys.org/news/2015-03-chemists-ri...earth.html
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