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Question about death to Atheists.
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RE: Question about death to Atheists.
(February 11, 2017 at 1:12 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(February 11, 2017 at 10:43 am)Whateverist Wrote: Watched the first ten minutes and will watch the rest soon.  (Early morning walk with the pups is happening.)  Interesting.

For those put off by the recent spate of threads obsessed with NDE (near death experiences), end of life (EOL) experiences doesn't deal with weird beyond the grave stuff - just what lots of people experience as they near death.  Interesting.  Of course those whose world view revolves around the divine or a life after, they would tend to interpret these experiences as boding promise of a reunion with passed loved ones.  Logical, given their world view.  But I didn't listen to in that light of course and I found plenty of interest without any supernatural mumbo jumbo.

We all die, part of the deal.  We are so good at anticipating what's coming consciously that our mortality is hard to ignore.  To my mind, the dreams Mary and others describe in the video are indicative of the way the cosmos feels to the part of you which is truly timeless and perceives your impending mortality -if at all- very differently.  I'm sure that sort of dream is comforting and as our decaying brains lose power perhaps it becomes less clear which perspective is more compelling?  

But acquiescing to the inevitable is probably preferable to panic.  I don't think I'd wish to become delusional but if we cultivate the capacity to appreciate the unconscious mind on its own terms in life without becoming confused about where its perspective rules and where that of our conscious minds is more important, we can continue to enjoy the best of each on up to the end.  That would be my preference.

The problem with NDEs is that scientists have looked for such things:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Parnia...E.29_study

And, they have not found anything conclusive.  When (and if) someone has a NDE and is able to verify an object's existence remotely (say, from the ceiling), then such will be proof that human consciousness survives the death of one's physical brain.


Hope you don't think what I wrote in any way validates taking NDEs (or EOLs for that matter) as evidence for an afterlife or divinity.  I can't imagine what science could possibly discover that would make me think dear dead aunt Mary is just over there following my life's story or eager to welcome me to her side.  Literally, it is bull shit.  It just dove tails nicely for those already decided upon there being a god and an afterlife in a way which precludes their looking at it objectively.
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Question about death to Atheists. - by Mirek-Polska - February 9, 2017 at 9:06 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by chimp3 - February 9, 2017 at 9:11 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by The Valkyrie - February 9, 2017 at 9:20 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by Mirek-Polska - February 9, 2017 at 9:26 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by The Valkyrie - February 9, 2017 at 9:34 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by Cyberman - February 9, 2017 at 9:38 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by Mister Agenda - February 10, 2017 at 10:37 am
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by chimp3 - February 9, 2017 at 9:32 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by Huggy Bear - February 10, 2017 at 12:47 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by Whateverist - February 11, 2017 at 10:43 am
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by Jehanne - February 11, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by Huggy Bear - February 11, 2017 at 1:32 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by Jehanne - February 11, 2017 at 4:12 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by Huggy Bear - February 11, 2017 at 4:51 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by Jehanne - February 11, 2017 at 7:59 pm
RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by Whateverist - February 11, 2017 at 2:59 pm
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RE: Question about death to Atheists. - by Whateverist - February 9, 2017 at 10:37 pm
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