(June 28, 2011 at 4:44 pm)JohnDG Wrote:(June 27, 2011 at 3:13 pm)Chuck Wrote:(June 27, 2011 at 2:32 pm)JohnDG Wrote: For a government on such a large scale to exist we must first lose the rights to freedom, happiness and all our rights to power and wealth. Human beings will cease to be anymore than property.
Really? I love these off-the-cuff bombasts. Could you quantify the scale of government at which "rights to freedom, happiness and all our rights to power and wealth" becomes lost? Could you also identify the how this scale might change with various factors that might effect your power, wealth and happiness?
Do you have money? Do you ever shop for shit you want? Are you allowed to go and do things that are pleasurable or relaxing to you? well lets say there is no money, you cant get stuff you want, and you most definenatly cannot do things that somebody told you isnt allowed. Little things makes you happy even if you dont notice it, imagine a world with no movies, tv, or any theme parks, video games. It's all gone, now you can only watch bill oriely, you live in an internment camp with your family, you cannot leave it, you cannot relax, you always work, and your never allowed to do anything to oppose your captors. You are property, no longer to be considerd human, because humans beings naturally want to gain wealth, they want to have the power to say no, and do what they want, they naturally try and do things to make them feel better or just better their situation. Well you cant in a one world government.
Im talking about the stuff your born with, not what somebody wrote on a peice of paper and said you can have.
Whoa whoa whoa, hold yer' horses there, mister. I'm talking about setting up a worldwide democratic system. What you're suggesting, that FEMA camp crap, is purely conspiracy. If I find that this is a conspiratorial group of atheists and freethinkers I will most surely delete my thread and leave you. That is not rational, that is not scientific. End of story.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." -Carl Sagan