Arguments against Deism and for religion.
November 9, 2011 at 12:31 am
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2011 at 12:46 am by Mystic.)
Suppose God exists, and we know he does. Is then there arguments for religion?
I don't believe in any of these arguments but I'll put them across and see how people can argue against them. I have arguments against each of them, but those arguments are similar to arguments against the problem of suffering, they may convince some people but will not convince others. So they make for strong arguments against deism, just as the problem of suffering is a strong argument against God in general, even though there is counter arguments and theodicy. These arguments are not conclusive but are plausible arguments against Deism.
Argument from caring:
If God exists, he would care about humans.
If he cares about humans, he would send them guidance.
God exists and cares about humans.
Therefore he has sent them guidance.
I also watched a Muslim scholar (Bilal Philips) and he talked about need of Creator organizing just like a Boss organizes his employees and doesn't leave them without organization. So I made an argument on that.
Argument from organization:
Society needs organization.
The best organization would come from God.
God exists and wishes the best organization for society.
Therefore he has provided the best organization for society.
Therefore there exists a religion with the best organization for society.
The true religion on this basis would be that provides the best organization for society.
Argument from morality:
Humans differ about moral issues, and can go wrong on many issues.
God would wants us to have way to be right on most moral issues.
The best way to insure we have a way to be right on most moral issues is to provide guidance.
God would provide guidance to insure we have a way to be right on most moral issues.
God exists and therefore has sent guidance on most moral issues.
Argument from want of communication.
God has created humans with a desire to want to hear from the Creator.
Human desiring to hear from the Creator has a purpose just like other human desires.
The only possible purpose for that desire is so that they find communication from the Creator.
God exists and therefore has communicated to humans.
There exists a communication to humans.
I don't believe in any of these arguments but I'll put them across and see how people can argue against them. I have arguments against each of them, but those arguments are similar to arguments against the problem of suffering, they may convince some people but will not convince others. So they make for strong arguments against deism, just as the problem of suffering is a strong argument against God in general, even though there is counter arguments and theodicy. These arguments are not conclusive but are plausible arguments against Deism.
Argument from caring:
If God exists, he would care about humans.
If he cares about humans, he would send them guidance.
God exists and cares about humans.
Therefore he has sent them guidance.
I also watched a Muslim scholar (Bilal Philips) and he talked about need of Creator organizing just like a Boss organizes his employees and doesn't leave them without organization. So I made an argument on that.
Argument from organization:
Society needs organization.
The best organization would come from God.
God exists and wishes the best organization for society.
Therefore he has provided the best organization for society.
Therefore there exists a religion with the best organization for society.
The true religion on this basis would be that provides the best organization for society.
Argument from morality:
Humans differ about moral issues, and can go wrong on many issues.
God would wants us to have way to be right on most moral issues.
The best way to insure we have a way to be right on most moral issues is to provide guidance.
God would provide guidance to insure we have a way to be right on most moral issues.
God exists and therefore has sent guidance on most moral issues.
Argument from want of communication.
God has created humans with a desire to want to hear from the Creator.
Human desiring to hear from the Creator has a purpose just like other human desires.
The only possible purpose for that desire is so that they find communication from the Creator.
God exists and therefore has communicated to humans.
There exists a communication to humans.
