(November 20, 2011 at 11:48 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Meaning, they have a demand for labor, but they're just not hiring?
This does not really make sense. You need employees to keep a business(that is in need of employees) running.
They will hire enough to get things to work. No less, no more.
If there are more people that they need, they'll hire the ones that they deem to be fit for the job.
Kilic, you do not get it. The economy is in the toilet. There are NO jobs. It doesn't matter how fit you are for the job if there is NO job. Oddly enough, I am qualified to do several different things. The people I have worked with in all but the business I am in right now are having hard times finding jobs. When cooks and welders are having a hard time finding work, you know something is wrong.
Quote:Well, that might also be the case, in which case you need to seek a counsel at school before applying to a university.
You are not understanding this. at. all. Counsel cannot tell if a business is going to collapse in four years. There are many circumstances that dictate whether a booming industry will keep booming. A school counselor isn't going to always be able to predict the job market.
Quote:Indeed, there are many useless college degrees now, but I personally wouldn't try for a college education if I knew that such a degree wouldn't bring me a good job(like african-american studies and etc.).
What if you didn't know, silly? That is the point. Besides, degrees like, "African-American studies" are typically supportive of a narrow career goal, not career goals in and of themselves.
Quote:This of course is the fault of the parents, wheras the parents in Turkey are heavily involved in the education of their children, and generally seek counsel from the school and other people who know things before sending their children to university.
It doesn't matter how involved your parents are. You could train to be a gynecologist and then have all of the women on the planet disappear tomorrow. I realize that is far-fetched, but I am having trouble getting this point through to you. The job market issue in the United States has fuckall to do with what kids are choosing to study.
Quote:And I also said that not all education can bring you a good job, that's why I did not opt to go for a degree in history although that was a primary interest of mine and chose to go with my father's wishes of becoming a chemical engineer.
And the demand for that kind of work could strangle unexpectedly, leaving you with your dick in your hand, just like any other business.
Quote:Meaning that people just refuse to invest their money into something they can profit from?
Honestly, there must be some communication breakdown going on here. That is not the problem. It is difficult to profit in this economy.
Quote:Most people who want to expand need to use loans for that. Starters, even more so. And I think that simply because you think that every business will take a hold, won't make it that way.
Oh, for pity's sake. If people are not buying, no one can sell. NO. ONE.
Quote:Well, do you not have master cards which directly access your reserves in the bank account?
Yes, and they are also credit cards in their own right.
Quote:Why use a credit card for that?
Because I have to.
Quote:Either you have the money to pay for that service, or you don't. IF you don't, then simply do not use a credit card.
Holy fucking simple, batman. It's not that I do not have the money and must use a credit card. It is that I cannot pay for the service without a credit card. They will not let you. Even if I used a bank card, I would have to use a bank, which was your initial point. You said something like, "People choose to use the banks." I NEED a bank account to do my job, pay for things, etc.
Quote:I personally use no credit card in anything, and prefer to handle everything in hard currency.
That's nice for you. You do not have to have a credit card, apparently.
Quote:Well, if they had a job, they wouldn't be there in the first place. Indeed, they may, or may not have a degree or a license in something. However, I don't have any knowledge on what kind of education these people have to actually benefit from it. You cannot expect a sociology student to find a job as quickly as a law student(lawyer, prosecutor etc.). Or find it at all, like what are sociology degrees good for anyways, but in research?
There are plenty of people there who have jobs!! Seriously, what are you on about if you have no clue what is going on? I apologize, but it really seems like you have no fucking clue what OWS is about or about the people protesting.
Quote:So you mean that the government is doing something illegal. So where is your supreme court?
Haha, that's funny.
Quote:Well indeed, but does the (US)government have any laws against gambling?
You missed the point. It is not about gambling. It is about state law vs. federal law. I don't give a shit about gambling or whether it is legal. It was an example, nothing more. Unfortunately, all it did was derail the conversation.
Quote:Well, that is too much of a simple solution. I don't think how it's going to work out.
Obviously not.
Quote:By small government, do you mean small government interference(en general), or small government as like in regional government with no federal interference?
Regional with limited federal interference.
Quote:And small businesses have already passed in America. Here, they work fine, yes, but America is home to many large, international corporations. Do you think of shutting them down somehow?
I'm sorry. This is getting frustrating. Small business has not "passed" in the U.S. You see them all the time. It just getting harder for them to succeed and grow.
Quote:Well, I'm not saying that people shouldn't do anything, however is this the fault of a particular(the current) government, or is it a part that is inherently within the system?
What does that have to do with the OP? You are going on about the protesters wanting better cars and needing better education.
Quote:There isn't much to investigate, actually, since it was public.
Oh, my fucking Gandalf. The cash prizes *ahem* bailouts were public. What the companies did with the money only came out after people looked into it.
Quote:The link to corporate money. I know that they finance elections and etc...
But other than that, their only ties to corporate money could be in the form of taxes, at least on legal terms.
Or are they affiliated in one way or the other with your politicians?
Either in legal terms, or in terms of corrupt behaviour, like bribes and etc?
Our politicians are big business owners, in many cases. What do you think?
