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Question About Creationists
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(May 21, 2012 at 8:42 pm)Abishalom Wrote: I do not believe the argument was about whether there was a creator/designer or what not. But since you mention it...how many amino acids do you suppose were needed for God to create everything? Apparently the 23 we know of were sufficient enough to do the job...
He probably could have used fewer as well. Using more amino acids would have allowed for more diversity in life, preventing inters-species viral infection. All life shares the same metabolic pathways. Even with only 20 amino acids though, diversity is still a problem. There are enough different possible genetic codes – all functionally equivalent and all using the same amino acids—for every species that has ever lived to have its own unique code. If there were no common ancestor from whom all life inherited this code it would make sense to expect a wide variety of codes. This would protect each species from inter-species viral infections.

Quote: Are you aware that proteins only make up 1% of the total human genome? Oh and not to mention there are over 3 billion base pairs. So essentially, only 1% of these 3 billion+ base pairs represent protein coding. This means that 99% of the human genome function is noncoding DNA (meaning it doesn't code proteins). If you consider that fact that we only know about 2% of the genome's function and that half of that (1%) is protein coding, then we do not know 99% of the noncoding function. Why is this significant? Scientists making the claims of common descent on the basis of "protein coding similarities" are doing so with only 1% of the 3 billion+ base pairs of the genome and a vast amount of unknown function.
I'll say this again, you don't have to know what DNA does to see similarities. You simply have to look at the fact that the base pairs match up
Quote:Well I do believe your explanation is lacking...What chimp chromosomes were we "missing"? All you've done is discuss how proteins in the human genome correspond to ape protein sequence in their genome. But proteins only make up 1% of the genome...what about the other 99%. Keep in mind there are over 3 billion base pairs in the human genome...
see previous reply. You can see that the base pairs match up, without knowing what they do.
Quote: Is this a representation of the 3 billion base pairs located in these chromosomes? Probably not...
Yes, this is the actual diagram of human and chimp chromosomes, representing the whole of the DNA, not just the proteins.
Quote: Again the claim was not about a creator etc. So this is a moot point...

You still haven't answered my questions about the processes that follwed said fusion event (see post #65)
Alright, forget the creator. The point is that that need not be the case, and only makes sense in the light of common descent.

As to your questions about the processes, you're making a ridiculous request. The change from chimp-like ancestor to human was very gradual, and it was a number of many many different mutations over a long period of time that caused these changes. It would be absolutely impossible to nail down every change. The best that can be done is, through the fossil record, determine the overall changes that occurred over time.

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Question About Creationists - by Phil - May 19, 2012 at 4:26 am
RE: Question About Creationists - by Welsh cake - May 19, 2012 at 6:48 am
RE: Question About Creationists - by Godschild - May 19, 2012 at 4:20 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Paul the Human - May 19, 2012 at 8:48 am
RE: Question About Creationists - by Annik - May 19, 2012 at 4:40 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Faith No More - May 19, 2012 at 4:54 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 19, 2012 at 5:14 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 19, 2012 at 5:18 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 19, 2012 at 5:29 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Anomalocaris - May 20, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Annik - May 19, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Paul the Human - May 19, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 19, 2012 at 5:43 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 19, 2012 at 5:50 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 19, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 19, 2012 at 6:03 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 20, 2012 at 5:37 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 20, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Cyberman - May 20, 2012 at 1:21 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 20, 2012 at 8:07 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 20, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by libalchris - May 20, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 20, 2012 at 10:19 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 20, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by libalchris - May 20, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 21, 2012 at 8:42 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 21, 2012 at 10:00 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Welsh cake - May 21, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Minimalist - May 21, 2012 at 2:28 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by libalchris - May 21, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by popeyespappy - May 21, 2012 at 9:07 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 21, 2012 at 9:43 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by libalchris - May 21, 2012 at 9:45 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by popeyespappy - May 21, 2012 at 10:18 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 21, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by popeyespappy - May 21, 2012 at 10:53 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 21, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Anomalocaris - May 21, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 21, 2012 at 11:18 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Minimalist - May 21, 2012 at 9:48 pm
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RE: Question About Creationists - by Anomalocaris - May 21, 2012 at 11:20 pm
RE: Question About Creationists - by Abishalom - May 21, 2012 at 11:55 pm
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