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Question About Creationists
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(May 21, 2012 at 9:02 pm)libalchris Wrote: He probably could have used fewer as well. Using more amino acids would have allowed for more diversity in life, preventing inters-species viral infection. All life shares the same metabolic pathways. Even with only 20 amino acids though, diversity is still a problem. There are enough different possible genetic codes – all functionally equivalent and all using the same amino acids—for every species that has ever lived to have its own unique code. If there were no common ancestor from whom all life inherited this code it would make sense to expect a wide variety of codes. This would protect each species from inter-species viral infections.
Well seeing that we have over 8 million species I'd say those 20 AA were enough, considering protein coding only accounts for less than 1% of the total genome...

Quote:I'll say this again, you don't have to know what DNA does to see similarities. You simply have to look at the fact that the base pairs match up

see previous reply. You can see that the base pairs match up, without knowing what they do.
But you're suggesting that we actually did a side by side comparison of the total 3 billion base pair. No such study exists. Every document study only used a sample and applied the result to the whole genome...makes you wonder...

Quote:Yes, this is the actual diagram of human and chimp chromosomes, representing the whole of the DNA, not just the proteins.
I actually edited the post shortly after I first published it (see above post for correction).

Quote:Alright, forget the creator. The point is that that need not be the case, and only makes sense in the light of common descent.

As to your questions about the processes, you're making a ridiculous request. The change from chimp-like ancestor to human was very gradual, and it was a number of many many different mutations over a long period of time that caused these changes. It would be absolutely impossible to nail down every change. The best that can be done is, through the fossil record, determine the overall changes that occurred over time.
Those requests aren't ridiculous. If humans and ape evolution is a fact then there should be no problems providing documentation of said mutations. You saying there were many mutations is not a sufficient explanation of said processes. What's really ridiculous is taking 1% of the 3 billion total base pairs and then claiming human/ape evolution occurred based on an insufficient sample size...gee I wonder why that is?



(May 21, 2012 at 9:45 pm)libalchris Wrote: Leme make this simple. The similarities are in the base pairs. You don't have to know what the DNA does to know that humans and chimps share almost 99% of their DNA. That means almost 99% of base pairs in chimps and humans coincide.
You have some sort of delusion that we actually compared every single base pair (of the 3 billion total) of humans and apes and then drew a conclusion. No such study exists. We only have studies based on limited sample sizes...

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Question About Creationists - by Phil - May 19, 2012 at 4:26 am
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