RE: Why do you not believe in God?
July 15, 2012 at 10:09 am
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2012 at 10:23 am by Taqiyya Mockingbird.)
(July 14, 2012 at 10:30 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote:(July 14, 2012 at 9:36 pm)KnockEmOuttt Wrote: Am I correct in thinking you are arguing against the use of logic? If that's the case, your past arguments make perfect sense to me now.
I am not. I am saying justifying logic by logic is circular. I accept logic, but not on the basis of logic. To say, as Taq, we know logic is true because it has been tried and therefore works, seems to me to assume logic.
The argument, it seems to me, is something like this
1. Things that are true are things that work in reality
2. Logic works in reality
3. Therefore basic logic is true
You can quit strawmanning us any time, twat.
Quote:However to even go from 1 to three you must assume logic is true as you use logic to make any inference.
Logic can be tested, and in fact developed and continues to develop through testing.
Quote: It used to be philosophers thought you could demonstrate truths by reason alone, and this has failed, which is partly what led to post-modernism.
And now it is understood that reason answers to evidence. Try to catch up to the 20th century, at least.
Quote:We know logic by intuition, and so it is also possible that this is how we can know God.
No, we don't. This is what I was talking about when I pointed out that you are incapable of honest debate.
(July 15, 2012 at 2:48 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Could we draft in some decent atheists please because jeff is wiping the floor with these guys and it's embarrassing!
Only an equally ignorant, disingenuous, intellectually bankrupt twat like you would think so.
(July 15, 2012 at 6:24 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(July 15, 2012 at 5:51 am)Skepsis Wrote: When Jeff stops strawmanning, evading, making vague, metaphysical arguments, denying logic, and constructing poor syllogisms,You've seen grown ups using those words haven't you?
I see that you have been destroyed to the point that you can only lay in a pool of your own blood, shit, and vomit and jeer from the sidelines.