RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
November 7, 2016 at 2:45 pm
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2016 at 2:53 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
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Sama, consider, for a moment, your objection. From every angle. I want to see if I can help you to undersand why it;s a poor objection in both principle and practice..and why it;s counterproductive to what we both want. Reform.
Firstly, the midnight gun to your face surprise example is -not- what a gun nut has a gun in their house for. It just isn;t. It;s also not the most commn way for a burglary to go down, not by a wide margin. It is, however, even more terrifying than the type of situation they -do- keep a gun in their house for. There is simply no point at which referencing something like that will make a gun nut think it's not a good idea to have a gun in his home for self defense. You -do- have to make him think that, you -do- have to lead him to that realization, if you want to see change. It's not going to happen if you don't, won't, or can't.
The type of thing they -do- keep a gun for, is when you hear the window smash, when you hear someone rummaging around in the other room. They think that's what they;re going to use their guns for. You tell them that, if their guns were safely stored..they couldn't get to them..and you'd simply be wrong. Wrong on the face of it. So, again, not a good objection. The problem with "goodguys" with guns..is that they can and do get to their guns..they use their guns, and somebody gets shot. Often enough, it's not the burglar. Even more terribly, there may never have been a burglar...and they weren't the goodguy at all..precisely because they could and did reach and use their guns. Few months ago...this was in this thread I believe, some asshole popped off at somebody he thought was a criminal in a parking lot. He was super-surprised to end up in handcuffs, he hadn't thought the use of his weapon through, at all. You know what, why would he? It's not as if the counternaarrative presented to him is a factual narrative...and for all the things he;s wrong about, he's right about that one. All the anti-gun stuff he's ever heard, belted at him from the fanatics on the other side of the divide...nutball shit. The actual consequences of his actions drowned out in a see of things that are trivially easy for he and his gun nut buddies to dismiss.
Sama, consider, for a moment, your objection. From every angle. I want to see if I can help you to undersand why it;s a poor objection in both principle and practice..and why it;s counterproductive to what we both want. Reform.
Firstly, the midnight gun to your face surprise example is -not- what a gun nut has a gun in their house for. It just isn;t. It;s also not the most commn way for a burglary to go down, not by a wide margin. It is, however, even more terrifying than the type of situation they -do- keep a gun in their house for. There is simply no point at which referencing something like that will make a gun nut think it's not a good idea to have a gun in his home for self defense. You -do- have to make him think that, you -do- have to lead him to that realization, if you want to see change. It's not going to happen if you don't, won't, or can't.
The type of thing they -do- keep a gun for, is when you hear the window smash, when you hear someone rummaging around in the other room. They think that's what they;re going to use their guns for. You tell them that, if their guns were safely stored..they couldn't get to them..and you'd simply be wrong. Wrong on the face of it. So, again, not a good objection. The problem with "goodguys" with guns..is that they can and do get to their guns..they use their guns, and somebody gets shot. Often enough, it's not the burglar. Even more terribly, there may never have been a burglar...and they weren't the goodguy at all..precisely because they could and did reach and use their guns. Few months ago...this was in this thread I believe, some asshole popped off at somebody he thought was a criminal in a parking lot. He was super-surprised to end up in handcuffs, he hadn't thought the use of his weapon through, at all. You know what, why would he? It's not as if the counternaarrative presented to him is a factual narrative...and for all the things he;s wrong about, he's right about that one. All the anti-gun stuff he's ever heard, belted at him from the fanatics on the other side of the divide...nutball shit. The actual consequences of his actions drowned out in a see of things that are trivially easy for he and his gun nut buddies to dismiss.
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