RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
November 3, 2013 at 2:32 pm
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2013 at 2:33 pm by CleanShavenJesus.)
(November 3, 2013 at 2:14 pm)justin Wrote: Sandy hook was a no gun zone. Just made that point and what about the Hollywood case where they put on juggernaut suits and had the massive amount of firepower to slaughter people with? Think they give a shit if guns have better restrictions ( which I never said I was against well round precautions but you know I'm an "idiot" da derhh)
I'd only consider you an "idiot" if you fit into the group I described in my original post. And if you aren't against any sort of precaution, then you don't fit into that group.
justin Wrote:What about the massive gun trafficking which have guns imported, exported, stolen, even made?
That's a seperate debate, because I'm focusing on how simple it is for a gunman to gain access to a gun legally. That's the biggest issue for me. Think about it. Almost every nationally-recognized shooting in the last few decades came from legally-purchased firearms. I am not very knowledgable about illegal gun trafficking and won't try to defend or oppose anything I'm not well-informed about.
justin Wrote:And the government having the potential to become a totalitarian state is a irrational fear? Seriously? As much corruption there is in the government and in every government in history this is a irrational fear? As much as people try to install there religious doctrines in the government and constantly have to be checked and balanced in order to keep from being taken advantage of and this is an irrational fear? Have you seen the right wing nutjobs ? Do you know what they try ALL the time? Come on man, seriously?
Are you comparing politicians putting the word "God" in things to the government suddenly robbing millions of citizens of their guns and forcing the entire population into a totaliatarianship? Give me a break.
(November 3, 2013 at 1:57 pm)Brakeman Wrote:(November 3, 2013 at 11:58 am)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Oh yes, I'm sure the United States will steal all of our guns and become a totalitarian state. This is an irrational fear.I don't think you will get much agreement on that opinion, certainly not from the nation's founders. They spent a great deal of time crafting our current system of "checks and balances" for that very specific reason. When our "checks and balances" fail, the wrath of the people would be the only deterrent.
Even if, for whatever reason, the United States government did do this, you think you could take on government forces? Maybe you could in 1776. Today? Not a chance.
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