RE: response, to al fatihah
January 12, 2013 at 4:29 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2013 at 4:36 pm by Al-Fatihah.)
(January 12, 2013 at 12:17 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:(January 12, 2013 at 12:07 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: Amusing, when that was never stated. Yet what was clearly stated is the there is absolutely nothing wrong with consensual sex in marriage at puberty with someone who is mature. What you stated is that this is a wrongful act. Therefore, your own logic supports the idea of molesting a child, and having sex without consent. So tell us, what makes you think it's okay to be such a perv?
"absolutly nothing wrong"??????
Puperty starts between 10-12 years of age of the individual.
Let`s just ask one simple question:
Is it alright for a 40 year old male muslim, to be married and to have sex with a 10 year old girl, who has reached puperty?
Personaly I think the case wis very clear. A person reaches adulthood at 18, and at that point can have sex with people above the age of 18 as much as they want.
And I find nothing about this subject to be
Quote:amusing
paulpoablo never stated that he supported the molestation of a child. He clearly spoke out against such, in fact the purpose of this thread is to voice his disgust about your support for childabuse.
There is nothing which would in any way suppose that "by his logic" he would support the molestation of a child.
You are the one who stated that when reaching puperty it is alright for such a person to be married and to have sex with an adult.
Do not reflect your undefenciable possition on someone else when you find it to be undefendable.
Response: to the contrary, he spoke against consensual sex in marriage at puberty with someone who is mature, making his own ideology that of child molesting. And since you're doing the exact same thing, you own perverted logic is exposed as well.
(January 12, 2013 at 12:27 pm)Darwinian Wrote: I just want to clarify this as I can't rule out the possibility of a breakdown in communication somewhere along the line.
Are you stating that as long as the girl is going through puberty, is married and gives consent then it is perfectly permissible, normal, allowable etc. for a 10 year old girl to have a full sexual relationship with say, a 50 year old man?
A simple yes or no will suffice.
No.
(January 12, 2013 at 3:05 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Response, do you think its right to claim people support rape and molestation if they dont agree with your opinion that having sex with a 9 year old is fine in certain circumstances?
Response: The better question is why do you condemn consensual sex in marriage at puberty with someone who is mature, and condone raping and molesting children?
(January 12, 2013 at 3:51 pm)Cinjin Wrote: My thoughts on the muslim defense of their prophet and his marriage to a nine year old girl:
If I were a muslim (and of course I never would be because that religion is even worse than christianity - if that's even possible), I wouldn't try to defend the act of having sex with a minor. That's just an impossible debate to win.
Rather, I would merely say, that there is no way to verify when exactly Muhammad first had sexual relations with that girl and I would follow that up with the fact that there is no way to be sure how mature of mind this particular girl was and perhaps even state that people mature mentally at very different rates. After, selling all that bull shit, I would then state that having sex with minors is illegal in today's society and that I personally would never condone such an act, but that Muhammad lived in a different time and we don't fully understand the nature of his relationship with his bride and the societal differences that effected both the minds of adults and children.
Is it bull shit? Of course it is, but at least I wouldn't come across as looking like a filthy pedophile worthy of arrest and prison rape.
Response: In many people's eyes, yes, you would, despite the strength of your argument.
