Conflicting statements in the bible

[A_Nony_Mouse]

What on Earth are you talking about? Genesis 5:4 clearly states that Adam and Eve had more kids later on. John V didn’t invent anything.

It appears the dropping brain damage includes your inability to comprehend time. C&A are AFTER being kicked out. Every bible hugger declares they were the first children of A&E -- you are stuck with that story else you can claim to be a new prophet with a new revelation. If so I demand to know your authority.

It's me who said you were dropped on your head

My apologies. You get credit for that juvenile remark.

and you were, it's obvious. Statler Waldorf did not say that, you can't even keep up with who says what to you, if I were you I wouldn't give us anymore evidence of your brain damage. We will use it against you.

So many children. So little time to memorize all their names.

As far as Cain and Able being the first two born of Adam and Eve, it is presumed so, it's not absolute. By the way who are you to demand anything, you never bring anything relevant to an argument. have you set yourself up as king of this site, Tiberius might have something to say about his kingdom.

When someone declares himself to be a prophet with a new revelation a demand for evidence of their authority is normal. As to it being an assumption they are the only facts in evidence. Of course the human race died out for an inadequate gene pool of only two people. But if we take the jewish ideas about the tale of two trees then A&E were not the first two people but the origin of the Israelite bloodline there is a whole set of new problems but this one goes away.

But since you agree to LATER ON lets run with that. Do you have the least comprehension of the consequences of totally inbred incest? I assume you are not.

I do, I breed rottweilers and incest (if that's what you want to call it) brings with it a great risk of bad genes being doubled up, but the same applies for the good genes. The problem is we do not know which ones may be recessive, thus the real risk of inbreeding. Sometimes we risk it to try and save a quality that's very desirable for the rottweiler breed, but only after observing a few generations to try and determine if any bad genes have become progressive.

So your problem with breeding is that you have been inbreeding the pups of the original pair for generations without out the addition of new bloodlines. I think I have found your problem.

So now to Cain and Able including their siblings,

It is not permitted to make assumptions for the sole purpose of salvaging a story. All assumptions absent additional evidence are equally likely.

oh yes mom and dad too. Scripture tells us that Adam and Eve were created perfect, no genetic mutations, no genetic problems at all,

It is going to be amusing to see you produce the chapter and verse where it says exactly that. After you fumble with that one explain why not knowing good and evil is not a brain defect that you think a fruit can cure.

therefore no problem with intermarriage at this point, because their offspring are not effected by genetic problems. Apparently this did not become a problem until God gave a commandment that brother, sister and cousins were to no longer marry. Until the flood people were living hundreds of years and not just the ones named, so apparently they were having few genetic problems.

So you are firmly against evolution with your young earth theories and all of the fossils be damned.

Now, even if Cain and Able were Adam and Eve's first two born (I personally do, but that doesn't make it necessary) the scriptures say nothing about their ages when Cain killed Able, they could have been a couple hundred of years old. This means Adam and Eve could have had a hundred or so children, but not only that their children could have had many children and their children's children could have had many children, man were getting into a lot of people in just a couple hundred years. So yes these children had plenty of time to move around, even to Nod, and establish new areas to live in. No big deal here, at least for those of us who had doctors with good hands.

So your position is that they stories are recountings of events which really happened. How am I supposed to take anything you say seriously?

Moving right along, you can't to another "land" to find a wife unless there is an entire incestuous breeding population in Nod in the first place. Ignoring the fact that such an incestuous population cannot exist, just to keep the ridicule going, sons and daughters of A&E must have migrated to Nod many generations before Cane was born.

I address this above, and it was not an incestuous population, God had not given a commandment against this type of marriage. Sorry mouse you're wrong again.

The issue is the two stories which disagree. In no case it is rational or even very bright to assume they are about real events. However incest has a meaning. That meaning is independent of any prohibition of it which your story tellers thought could only come from god or other.

WHEN did they migrate from Eden to Nod? There are many other problems which your explanation must address although the absence of a breeding population that applies to A&E also applies to Nod.

Eden was off limits, so they did not leave from Eden, they did go to a place they named Nod. The problems you saw never existed except in your own mind.

You mean satellite images have found Eden? The story says they went to Nod not to a land he named Nod. If it had a name people were already there to have named it. The issue is only the inconsistencies in the stories about a mythical place and people. No rational person thinks they were all other than mythical.

Why are you personally attacking him? He’s been destroying you in this debate, so calling him stupid only makes you look even worse.

This is not a debate.

It certainly is not a debate from your side, all you can do is insult and demand, you have no idea what you're talking about. I know 4 year old children that know more than you do, they could argue you into the ground.

And like a four year old you believe the stories describe real people, places and events. That was never a premise of this discussion. The premise was only different versions of the myth. You do not appear to keep that straight.