Conflicting statements in the bible

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It’s appealing because it is logically sound.

That explains why Calvanists abound!

His efficacious will yes, but not His decreed will.

So, he wanted it but he didn't want it. Got it.

Do you have an actual proof to demonstrate that you have a free will or are you conceding you cannot prove you in fact do?

I have proven it by making conscious choices throughout this conversation.

For example: at first, my responses were prompt and now they are delayed. A varied approach, just as many things are varied.

It is; there’s nothing logically unsound about my position.

There absolutely is. Your position preposes that all things meaningless, not to mention extremely petty.

Sure you have, you claimed that Calvinists believe that everyone is a vessel prepared for wrath, which is not true at all; God’s elect are vessels prepared for mercy (Romans 9). You also seem to be completely ignorant of how Calvinists view God’s wills, which is surprising for someone claiming to have once been a Calvinist.

Like I said, it's a difference of progression. I simply have a wider perspective than you, and because of that, I understand the contradictions involved.

That said, here is quote from the Westminster Confession:

Chapter VI…II. By this sin they fell from their original righteousness and communion with God, and so became dead in sin and wholly defiled in all the parts and faculties of soul and body. III. They being the root of all mankind, the guilt of this sin was imputed; and the same death in sin and corrupted nature conveyed to all their posterity, descending from them by ordinary generation. (Palmer, p. 126)

You’ve mocked a misrepresentation of it, which is in itself meaningless and a sign of positional weakness.

Not at all. It's not my fault that the doctrines contradict themselves. That's the nature of the bible.

It’s not too complicated for most to understand, only apparently for you.

When (or if) you ever graduate, then will talk. Right now it's like trying to discuss the planet with a flat earther.

Now are you trying to represent Calvinism?

Just stating one of their contradicting beliefs.

What most Christians believe about Calvinism is irrelevant; it has no bearing on what the Bible actually teaches.

That makes sense. "God's Word" is so powerful and "appealing" that most people don't truly get it and aren't compelled by it.

That's logically sound!