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AF Hall of Fallacies
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RE: AF Hall of Fallacies
Rayaan Wrote:That doesn't make sense.

If something is illogical, then it has to be unreasonable.

Everything that is illogical is unreasonable, but everything that is unreasonable is NOT necessarily illogical.

Try to refute THAT.

I'm using 'a reason' = 'a cause, explanation, or justification', which translates to 'using reason' or 'being reasonable' = to cite a reason for (one's) <conclusion(s), belief(s), law(s), etc>...

I don't use reason as it applies only to logic... seems shortsighted, and horribly myopic of the process as it obsesses over the subject Smile I'd first have to know why something being illogical means it's unreasonable to judge your argument on it's merits... and I'm willing to use your definition to do it (though expect it to be critiqued) if you should feel up to providing it Smile

Quote:But ... in this post, you said that what matters is the essay, and not who wrote it. So why would you choose Tiberius to write the essay?

It seems you also contradicted yourself when you said the following:

"And if he doesn't do a good job [...]," the key words being "good job" which imply that you do believe that Tiberius is most likely to do a better job than I would, right?

Regardless, the the question is, why did say that you would much prefer Tiberius to write the essay, and later say that it doesn't matter who writes it?

Because I'm being reasonable, and not logical. Logically, you're both equally capable of writing me an essay that I will consider 'good'... but I have cause to believe (faith, btw) that Tiberius would do a better job of it than you.

I would prefer Tiberius to write the essay, but ultimately: both of you can write the essay. I would still have Tiberius do it if I were to be any sensibly illogical business person... but should you come up to my front door as a total stranger, essay in hand: I should think that I'd read it regardless. Smile

Quote:Let's imagine you have two options now, and I'll ask the question again (more clearly):

If you had a serious heart condition, who would you first go to for helpful information about the situation of your health: a doctor or a lawyer?

And why?

Doctor, if I'm looking for information. Lawyer if I think getting information is secondary to telling people what to do with my shit Smile

Why: I have faith that a person who has spent their life studying medicine might give me a more informed opinion on health issues, and may be able to treat possibly dangerous conditions on the spot (or, failing that, inform me of how to treat such conditions, if possible). As for the lawyer, I don't trust them, but I don't know enough legalese to write my will myself, to be read and enacted by only those who I do trust Dodgy
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 22, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by festive1 - May 22, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 22, 2013 at 8:28 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tonus - May 22, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 22, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 22, 2013 at 10:14 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 2:34 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Darth - May 22, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 22, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 23, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 23, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 23, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 23, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by CapnAwesome - May 26, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 26, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by CapnAwesome - May 26, 2013 at 10:14 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 26, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by CapnAwesome - May 27, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 28, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Whateverist - May 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by fr0d0 - June 1, 2013 at 5:35 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by shep - February 23, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by H.sapiens - March 26, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Athene - March 26, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by One Above All - May 23, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by One Above All - May 23, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 23, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 23, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 23, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by One Above All - May 23, 2013 at 4:50 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 23, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Neo-Scholastic - May 23, 2013 at 7:50 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by catfish - May 23, 2013 at 9:14 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by fr0d0 - May 24, 2013 at 10:43 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Mister Agenda - May 24, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 24, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tiberius - May 24, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Angrboda - May 24, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 24, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 28, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 24, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by fr0d0 - May 24, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by fr0d0 - May 24, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 24, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 24, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by KichigaiNeko - May 24, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Angrboda - May 25, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 25, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 25, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 26, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 28, 2013 at 3:53 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 29, 2013 at 11:14 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Gilgamesh - May 26, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 26, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 26, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 26, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by ideologue08 - May 26, 2013 at 9:34 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Minimalist - May 28, 2013 at 2:05 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Mister Agenda - May 28, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 28, 2013 at 5:18 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Mister Agenda - June 3, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - June 5, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 30, 2013 at 4:41 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - June 3, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tiberius - June 1, 2013 at 8:13 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - June 3, 2013 at 4:52 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Faith No More - June 1, 2013 at 8:18 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tkcjpii - October 27, 2013 at 8:56 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Faith No More - October 27, 2013 at 9:01 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Doubting Thomas - October 28, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by The Reality Salesman - October 28, 2013 at 9:17 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by downbeatplumb - October 28, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by bennyboy - October 28, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by EgoRaptor - February 23, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Angrboda - February 23, 2014 at 9:59 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - February 25, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by vorlon13 - April 17, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by LastPoet - April 17, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by CapnAwesome - April 19, 2015 at 11:00 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Edwardo Piet - May 4, 2015 at 2:46 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by LastPoet - March 26, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Soldat Du Christ - October 23, 2016 at 1:58 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tonus - December 9, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by downbeatplumb - December 9, 2016 at 1:53 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 12:01 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 12:43 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2017 at 12:48 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 12:49 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:38 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 2:03 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 2:06 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 2:08 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 2:13 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2017 at 8:46 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 2:18 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 2:35 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 6:43 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2017 at 5:44 pm

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