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AF Hall of Fallacies
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RE: AF Hall of Fallacies
Rayaan Wrote:Yes, I also don't use reason as if it applies only to logic. Reason is a bigger concept and logic is a part of it. That's why I said that if something is not reasonable, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is illogical as well.

However, if something is reasonable, then it cannot be shown/proven to be illogical. And if something can be proven to be illogical, then it can't be reasonable.

I guess the proof and the method one goes about establishing it is the hardest part.

Logic can be a part of it, but one is easily capable of reasoning with anything (as we can observe in the usage of fallacies by people). I can, at any time, generate an argument from emotion, and use it as my foundation for something I believe (you might observe that recently in all of the pedophilia threads, there are a great amount of arguments to the effect: 'because it's disgusting/horrible/unnatural!'). That is to say: the person is clearly reasoning, but at the same time: they are also clearly not using logic as a part of their reasoning Smile

Yes, that's pretty difficult @_@ I, personally, disagree that logic is a necessary part of reason... but I would agree that it is a necessary part of logical reasoning Smile

Rayaan Wrote:And the cause for your belief that Tiberius would do a better job at it is that he has more knowledge on the particular topic than I have - is that right or wrong? If that is right, then that means you agree that people who are more knowledgeable in a particular field (authorities) are more likely to be correct, though not necessarily.

Actually, it's because I think he's sexier than you. Wink

More likely to be *considered* correct. I still hold to the belief that everyone is wrong about everything. Smile

Quote:So ... you believe that a doctor is more likely to give you more helpful information about your health than a laywer would (which is not incorrect).

Then, would it be a true claim to say that you have a greater confidence in authorities (though not always) to a certain extent, at least?

Really, it's that I have greater confidence in those I believe to be authorities... in their field. I certainly have more faith in the scientific method than I do in any particular scientists. Wasn't always that way, I'm proud of myself ^_^ I'm really a pretty trusting person, though: if anyone tells me something, and it seems reasonable or true to me... I'm like to believe them.
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AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 22, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by festive1 - May 22, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 22, 2013 at 8:28 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tonus - May 22, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 22, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 22, 2013 at 10:14 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 2:34 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Darth - May 22, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 22, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 23, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 23, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 23, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 23, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by CapnAwesome - May 26, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 26, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by CapnAwesome - May 26, 2013 at 10:14 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 26, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by CapnAwesome - May 27, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 28, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Whateverist - May 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by fr0d0 - June 1, 2013 at 5:35 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by shep - February 23, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by H.sapiens - March 26, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Athene - March 26, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by One Above All - May 23, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by One Above All - May 23, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 23, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 23, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 23, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 23, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by One Above All - May 23, 2013 at 4:50 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 23, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Neo-Scholastic - May 23, 2013 at 7:50 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by catfish - May 23, 2013 at 9:14 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by fr0d0 - May 24, 2013 at 10:43 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Mister Agenda - May 24, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 24, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tiberius - May 24, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Angrboda - May 24, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 24, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 28, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 24, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by fr0d0 - May 24, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by fr0d0 - May 24, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 24, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 24, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by KichigaiNeko - May 24, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Angrboda - May 25, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 25, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 25, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 26, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 28, 2013 at 3:53 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 29, 2013 at 11:14 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Gilgamesh - May 26, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Jackalope - May 26, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 26, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - May 26, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by ideologue08 - May 26, 2013 at 9:34 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Minimalist - May 28, 2013 at 2:05 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Mister Agenda - May 28, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - May 28, 2013 at 5:18 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Mister Agenda - June 3, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - June 5, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Violet - May 30, 2013 at 4:41 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rayaan - June 3, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tiberius - June 1, 2013 at 8:13 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - June 3, 2013 at 4:52 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Faith No More - June 1, 2013 at 8:18 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tkcjpii - October 27, 2013 at 8:56 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Faith No More - October 27, 2013 at 9:01 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Doubting Thomas - October 28, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by The Reality Salesman - October 28, 2013 at 9:17 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by downbeatplumb - October 28, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by bennyboy - October 28, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by EgoRaptor - February 23, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Angrboda - February 23, 2014 at 9:59 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Statler Waldorf - February 25, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by vorlon13 - April 17, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by LastPoet - April 17, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by CapnAwesome - April 19, 2015 at 11:00 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Edwardo Piet - May 4, 2015 at 2:46 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by LastPoet - March 26, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Soldat Du Christ - October 23, 2016 at 1:58 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Tonus - December 9, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by downbeatplumb - December 9, 2016 at 1:53 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 12:01 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 12:43 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2017 at 12:48 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 12:49 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:38 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 2:03 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 2:06 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 2:08 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 2:13 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2017 at 8:46 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 2:18 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 2:35 am
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 6:43 pm
RE: AF Hall of Fallacies - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2017 at 5:44 pm

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