(July 8, 2013 at 8:12 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote:An insult is used to make someone feel below you. We have 42 pagan men who were jeering at a prophet. They knew he was a prophet because he just performed a miracle in the name of God. They did not respect him for the reason that he was God's prophet. They were trying to show Elisha that their gods were more powerful and could step on his. God proved otherwise.(July 6, 2013 at 8:51 pm)Consilius Wrote: Moses killed one man in his entire lifetime. That's not mass murder. You blatantly ignored or overlooked everything I just said and said exactly what you said before.
Why are you lying to people who care only for the truth? You can't tell us with a straight face that Moses only killed one person. What about all the other people that he or others killed whilst carrying out his orders? No more sugar-coating.
Fine.. Fuck Moses. You believe in the biggest murderer of all: God. I guess it makes sense that you don't feel bad about all the senseless killings in that old book of fairy-tales.
(July 6, 2013 at 8:51 pm)Consilius Wrote: On Elijah cursing children in 2 Kings 2:23-24.
They weren't children. The Hebrew word neurim qetannim means "young man": between the ages of 12 and 30. Isaac was in his early twenties when he is nearly sacrificed in Genesis 22:12, and Joseph is seventeen in Genesis 37:2.
Children. Men. Fuck it, it doesn't matter that he killed grown men as long as they weren't children, right?
(July 6, 2013 at 8:51 pm)Consilius Wrote: Elisha had finished revoking an Joshua's earlier curse on the nearby city of Jericho (Joshua 6:26) by making its water clean (2 Kings 2:19-22). Elisha was a prophet, a representative of God, as he had proven not long ago, and the insults were not going to him but to the God he stood for. This isn't very surprising, since he was traveling through an area of Israelite pagan worship (1 Kings 12:32). These men, if not pagan priests themselves, were pagan worshippers.
So you insult someone and that warrants death? I'm surprised GC is still alive!
(July 6, 2013 at 8:51 pm)Consilius Wrote: Elisha responded to this threat to his prophetic mission by cursing them in the name of the God he stood for, and the one they were insulting. There is no evidence he prayed for any type of punishment at all, rather, God executed the curse by sending bears to maul them. That 42 of these men were captured and mauled by two bears suggests that there could have been many more people gathered against this one man.
This wasn't playful teasing from a few kids, but a mass gathering of pagans against a prophet.
Was it a threat or an insult? It seems the author of this website doesn't get his facts straight anyway, so why should I bother to listen to what he/she has to say?
I saw an insult, and that's I'm going with. They got cursed for dealing out an insult, and God enacted the curse with two female bears. Then 42 children/men/midgets sat around while waiting their turn to get mauled. If there were more people, the passage doesn't say, so now you're just speculating on a storybook. What a relief; I'm still not convinced of anything new except that you still like to sugarcoat these bible stories in order to make them seem more appealing to people who aren't already brainwashed.
Excuse my harsh tone, but I've pulled an all nighter, and people lying to me makes me cranky enough already.
This site made me LOL though, so you lightened my mood a bit.
http://christianthinktank.com/qmeanelisha.htm
Does it make sense now?