Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: May 17, 2024, 7:32 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Are Ray and Kirk Perfect?
#34
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect?
(July 23, 2013 at 2:39 am)Godschild Wrote:
(July 23, 2013 at 1:29 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: I don't see what the problem is. God can't create someone who breathes out of their elbow? I thought it was omnipotent.

A good design, by whose standards? The human body is riddled with problems. 1-3 % of all babies ever born will have deformities requiring medical interventions. We're not even counting handicaps that show up later in life. We're not even counting miscarriages and ectopic pregnancies yet. The system is highly flawed. You seem to think that we can't do any better than god did? yea, but why are you limiting god's abilities to our level? we're humans.

I have only addressed the topic of breathing and swallowing and have shown that there are greater benefits to the design than flaws, I've purposely stayed away from the original created persons and the sin that followed so we would not get distracted.
Ok, one problem at a time, fine by me.
Quote:You don't like the fact that the design benefits man with much greater purpose, you want to beat on one thing instead of looking at the whole. And you all want to through up science to me, use it yourself, please.
It's not a fact. I don't dislike it, I disregard the idea because, it's not a fact. Enlighten me on this much greater purpose. Why would a baby be born with anencephaly and die within a day if not hours of its birth, what greater purpose does that serve? Or if you prefer to deal with the choking problem first, why do people choke to death, what's the greater purpose?

Quote:By the way if we breathed through our elbow, wearing long sleeves would be a smothering experience, swimming would be an difficult activity. Breaking ones's arm would make it difficult to put a cast on, and believe me snotty sleeves would be nasty, unless your a kid forever. I know there are other disadvantages, but it's late and I can't think of any at the moment.
you don't get it. Just because no one on this forums can come up with a perfect idea doesn't make the system perfect. Because we found flaws. And god should be smarter than us, no?
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Michael Schubert - July 22, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by pineapplebunnybounce - July 22, 2013 at 1:56 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Michael Schubert - July 22, 2013 at 1:58 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by pineapplebunnybounce - July 22, 2013 at 2:05 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Jackalope - July 22, 2013 at 2:10 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Writer - July 22, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by LostLocke - July 22, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - July 22, 2013 at 2:04 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Michael Schubert - July 22, 2013 at 2:06 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Kayenneh - July 22, 2013 at 2:05 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by pineapplebunnybounce - July 22, 2013 at 2:10 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Minimalist - July 22, 2013 at 2:23 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 22, 2013 at 5:37 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Esquilax - July 22, 2013 at 8:40 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Michael Schubert - July 22, 2013 at 5:13 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Tonus - July 23, 2013 at 3:47 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Faith No More - July 23, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Walking Void - July 24, 2013 at 12:46 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Wolf - July 22, 2013 at 6:00 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 22, 2013 at 8:11 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 22, 2013 at 9:26 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Psykhronic - July 22, 2013 at 10:05 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 22, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Writer - July 22, 2013 at 11:50 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Esquilax - July 24, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Writer - July 24, 2013 at 11:06 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Writer - July 22, 2013 at 10:01 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Psykhronic - July 22, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 22, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Chas - July 23, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Minimalist - July 22, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Wolf - July 22, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 23, 2013 at 1:20 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by pineapplebunnybounce - July 23, 2013 at 1:29 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 23, 2013 at 2:39 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by pineapplebunnybounce - July 23, 2013 at 2:44 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Michael Schubert - July 23, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Cyberman - July 23, 2013 at 7:06 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 23, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Writer - July 23, 2013 at 1:22 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 23, 2013 at 2:22 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Michael Schubert - July 23, 2013 at 2:34 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 23, 2013 at 2:46 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Writer - July 23, 2013 at 9:35 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by pineapplebunnybounce - July 23, 2013 at 4:45 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 23, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Writer - July 23, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Wolf - July 23, 2013 at 6:38 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Cyberman - July 23, 2013 at 9:44 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Writer - July 23, 2013 at 12:28 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 23, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Whateverist - July 23, 2013 at 1:04 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Michael Schubert - July 23, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Cyberman - July 23, 2013 at 7:15 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Michael Schubert - July 23, 2013 at 9:41 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Tonus - July 24, 2013 at 9:08 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Writer - July 23, 2013 at 12:45 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Wolf - July 23, 2013 at 1:09 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by The Grand Nudger - July 23, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Godschild - July 23, 2013 at 7:21 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Cyberman - July 23, 2013 at 7:25 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by The Grand Nudger - July 24, 2013 at 9:20 am
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Doubting Thomas - July 24, 2013 at 1:53 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Writer - July 24, 2013 at 3:46 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Minimalist - July 24, 2013 at 7:21 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Cyberman - July 24, 2013 at 6:47 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Bad Writer - July 24, 2013 at 10:12 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Esquilax - July 24, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: Are Ray and Kirk Perfect? - by Michael Schubert - July 24, 2013 at 11:45 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Theists: What do you mean when you say that God is 'perfect'? Angrboda 103 17623 March 5, 2021 at 6:35 am
Last Post: arewethereyet
  Imperfect perfect Trinity Alex K 8 1008 December 14, 2019 at 9:20 am
Last Post: onlinebiker
  We are God's perfect imperfection. ignoramus 54 14827 July 9, 2017 at 12:20 pm
Last Post: Astonished
  Can prayer change God's perfect plan? MellisaClarke 217 64272 May 23, 2017 at 8:33 am
Last Post: SteveII
  Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world? Socrates 138 31397 February 25, 2017 at 12:34 am
Last Post: Godscreated
  The Perfect Religious Doctrine The Reality Salesman01 41 6905 May 15, 2016 at 8:05 pm
Last Post: The Reality Salesman01
  Argument from perfect preservation Psychonaut 8 3838 August 9, 2015 at 8:59 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  This Is Perfect. Minimalist 14 5149 November 22, 2014 at 11:56 am
Last Post: dyresand
  How is the Bible/Quran a "perfect book" ? Rwandrall 14 5837 November 5, 2014 at 6:27 am
Last Post: Nintentacle
  If God made us perfect.... vodkafan 28 8068 May 31, 2014 at 1:04 pm
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)