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Slavery (on Thursdays)
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
(March 3, 2014 at 2:06 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(March 3, 2014 at 1:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Trust me, that has been thoroughly explained in this thread.

No offense to you personally, but my experience here has shown that "thoroughly explained" means something different to me than it does to the religious. Care to elaborate?

Sure ill just copy/paste what I wrote earlier.

why we are no longer under the law:

Galatians 3:
23 Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed.
24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith.
25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith,

27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Only those "in Christ" are no longer under the law. The laws only purpose is to put you under condemnation and show that you are a sinner, it has no saving qualities. Think of it as a policeman, if you are accused of breaking the law, it's only job is to bring you to the judge.

Ezekiel 18:20-23
20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die.


As you can see the penalty for sin is death (eternal separation from God), so either you had to die or something died in your place. This is where the sacrificial lamb comes in, except that the blood of an animal had no power to change the nature of the offender. in other words the sinner still had the same desire to sin that got him in trouble in the first place.

John 1:29
29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.


So now comes Jesus Christ who being born in a stable (symbolizing him as a lamb), "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved" (John 3:17). His blood has the power to transform the sinner removing the desire to sin, by having his nature replace the nature of the sinners.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

So now when the sinner accepts Christ and recieves his spirit , he exists in a state of "grace" (unmerited favor), because now when God looks at Him he doesn't see the sinner he sees Christ (perfection). Which means he cannot be judged under the law, because he is found blameless.

John 5:24
Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

This btw is exactly what the Jewish passover was about, being passed over for judgement by applying the blood of a lamb to their doorposts.
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Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - February 25, 2014 at 10:56 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 25, 2014 at 10:58 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - February 25, 2014 at 11:00 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Drich - February 27, 2014 at 12:11 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 25, 2014 at 10:59 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by No_God - February 26, 2014 at 11:23 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 5:08 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 5:44 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by là bạn điên - February 27, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 6:57 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 7:42 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 10:52 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 27, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 27, 2014 at 12:52 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 27, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 27, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 27, 2014 at 11:18 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - February 28, 2014 at 6:31 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 6:38 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 8:20 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 8:31 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - February 28, 2014 at 8:58 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 10:14 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 10:17 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 12:12 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - February 28, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - February 28, 2014 at 10:53 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Faith No More - March 2, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 27, 2014 at 3:05 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 26, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 6:02 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 26, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 8:53 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Simon Moon - February 26, 2014 at 8:55 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 9:16 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Jackalope - February 26, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Jackalope - February 26, 2014 at 9:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - February 26, 2014 at 10:57 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - February 27, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Drich - February 27, 2014 at 1:23 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 27, 2014 at 2:37 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - February 27, 2014 at 1:32 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by CapnAwesome - February 27, 2014 at 12:44 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - February 27, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - February 28, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - February 28, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - February 28, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 2:22 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 1, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 1, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 2, 2014 at 1:26 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 2, 2014 at 1:31 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 2, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by max-greece - February 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - February 28, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - February 28, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by max-greece - February 28, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - February 28, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - March 1, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 1, 2014 at 6:10 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - March 1, 2014 at 10:47 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 2, 2014 at 4:20 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 2, 2014 at 4:35 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 2, 2014 at 6:08 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 2, 2014 at 6:39 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 2, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 2, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by max-greece - March 2, 2014 at 6:23 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 2, 2014 at 8:26 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 2, 2014 at 8:33 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Faith No More - March 3, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 3, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 2, 2014 at 8:42 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 2, 2014 at 1:23 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 3, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 4:29 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 5:01 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 5:11 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Jackalope - March 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 5:57 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 3, 2014 at 7:46 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2014 at 7:48 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 3, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 3, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 6:59 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 4, 2014 at 7:12 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 4, 2014 at 7:15 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 8:48 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 4, 2014 at 9:04 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 10:39 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 4, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 4, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 1:41 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 3, 2014 at 8:51 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - March 4, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 4, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 5, 2014 at 11:24 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 5, 2014 at 11:47 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 12:00 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 6, 2014 at 12:08 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 12:21 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 6, 2014 at 12:35 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 12:48 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 7:08 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 7:10 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 6, 2014 at 1:15 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - March 6, 2014 at 6:49 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - March 6, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 11:16 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - March 6, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 2:04 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 2:18 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - March 7, 2014 at 6:50 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 4, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - March 6, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - March 6, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 6, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 6, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 6, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 6, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 6, 2014 at 4:43 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 12:43 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 6, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 6, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 6, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Cinjin - March 6, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 3:05 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 3:19 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 8:08 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 3:24 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 3:28 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 3:41 am
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RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 4:10 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 4:49 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 7, 2014 at 3:50 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 7, 2014 at 3:34 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 7:14 am
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RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 7:43 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 9:14 am
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