Slavery (on Thursdays)

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you do realize Moses died at 120 years of age

No, he didn't, even if he did exist. And even if you were one hundred percent right, presenting a single outlier doesn't change the average.

yes, if you decided you wanted to be a slave of your own "free will" you'd be free to go in the year of Jubile.

Ah, but who chooses to be a slave? Really chooses, as opposed to being forced to participate in the slave trade system by destitution.

Also, you still haven't explained how this excuses the fact that there was a slave trade in the first place: how does this make owning another human being moral?

are you serious?
you realize we are discussing the Law that Moses gave to the Hebrews right?

Yes, that's why you asked me for a bible quote in your last post.

Look up the definition of "Property" and "Possession" . If you let me borrow a tool for instance it in in my possession but not my property. Get it? If someone sells themselves in to servitude then they come into their masters possession not property. because it is only for a limited time.

You are, literally, the most dishonest person to come along here in a while. Did you miss, perhaps, the end of the fucking bolded sentence? You know, where it says "they shall be your bondsmen forever"? Is forever a limited time, now?

More importantly, it's hilarious how you're still relying on sophistic tricks even after they've been pointed out and are blindingly obvious to everyone else. You accuse me of taking stuff out of context, and here you are focusing on a single word in the sentence, rather than the surrounding words and what they mean when put together. The last desperate gasp of someone in the wrong.

So if, as you've admitted, that it's possession if undertaken for a limited time, would you not have to admit that these people become property now that you see where the bible says they stay that way forever?

I mean, that is the argument you just used...

no contradiction, you stated that servants were allowed to be beaten. I showed you where they weren't.

And I still have the passage that says they can be beaten, you unbelievable moron.

we went over the whole "property vs possession" thing. there is nothing to imply anyone was forced, pure assumption. Why can't you assume that the servants fell in love and asked for permission to marry?

Because the bible verse specifically says "give them a wife"?

Oh, and your property vs possession bullcrap is invalid as per the premises of your own argument, not to mention the logic of an honest mind.

your views are irrelevant.

Not when we're talking about what we feel constitutes justice.

Seeing how you can't have a simple debate without resorting to expletives, leads me to believe you have no impulse control.

Buddy, I'm motherfucking Australian. We swear every other goddamn sentence, they're just words, after all. Nothing to be afraid of.

The reason you manage not to, is that you realize that realize there are consequences for doing so, unlike insulting someone over the internet, which provides you with the anonymity to say what you normally wouldn't say to someone face to face.

Oh, I'd say all this to your face, wanker.

So if you had "magical powers" you would abuse them since the consequences no longer apply to you like they do everyone else, hence "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" . But YOU claim that you would never abuse that power and therefore you'd be the one exception. therefore making you the "pinnacle of righteousness"

Or alternately, you're a silly bitch clinging to an old idiom rather than looking at actual humans. What reason do I have to take any well worn phrase you use seriously, considering you live in a bizarre world where words can be picked out of sentences and made to mean something other than the sentences they reside in imply? You do horrible things to language in this thread, and then expect anyone to bother with your idioms?

No, I can be honest.

So can I, and merely presupposing that I'm lying because it's convenient to you doesn't make it so. You can't demonstrate shit, so you're left with just making it up.