(April 30, 2014 at 7:20 am)Bronwynn Wrote: My words to you don't come from desperation. Or fevered imagination. I am not delusional. I am not a bible thumping "Christian" who goes to church every Sunday to look good for others. I don't handle snakes and scream and carry on, as others do. I am simply one person who knows God, who worships and prays to Him in the solitude of my own home.
The "heart" I was referring to was not the blood pumping organ, that is visible. I was speaking of the "heart" we are given, which is spoke of in the bible as being; deceitful above all things, full of wickedness, and who can know it? it is a bottomless pit because there is no end to it, no bottom. The invisible Heart is also in countless songs that I'm sure you have sung; I left my heart in San Fransisco, My heart will go on, Heart breaker, my broken heart, etc. etc. We can agree that everyone has a heart such as this, that is what I was referring to.
The point I was trying to show you is simply this.
You can believe that air, which is invisible, is real.
The heart, which is invisible, is real.
The mind, whose images and sounds cannot be grasped, is real.
God, who is invisible, who cannot be grasped, is real.
we are made of visible and invisible things. I look at myself in the mirror and say, yes that is me. Yet, the greater part of me is what I do not see. That part, which is invisible I have recognized, and embraced and that part is joined with God. Yet I carry around this flesh, which is aging and breaking down, yet I am alive because of Him.
Consider how things grow. The seed in all of us, can be brought to growth through God. Or do you believe that you are alive, waiting to die? the opposite is true. We are only made alive through the life giving seed from above. this place, called hades or whatever you want to call it, is not Gods kingdom. This wretched place is called death. And Jesus was born into this world to take us out of here. He is the door which leads upward.
"For the Son of Man clothed himself with their first-fruits; he went down to Hades and performed many mighty works. He raised the dead therein; and the world-rulers of darkness became envious of him, for they did not find sin in him. But he also destroyed their works from among men, so that the lame, the blind, the paralytic, the dumb, (and) the demon-possessed were granted healing".--testimony of truth
If you can agree that there are visible and invisible things in the world, and that there are visible and invisible things in us, why then is it a stretch of the imagination to believe in something similar known as God? I believe in Him, not out of fear, or a need to believe in signs, but out of genuine truth.
His words are life. For many years, I did not get that. I always believed that a God exists, but He was so far removed from me as the moon. I would try to read the bible and it was a closed book to me, no different then reading the dictionary. Just words and parables I did not understand. Then the veil was removed. And it was not removed because my imagination decided to fool myself, because >He did not come so therefore I will make myself believe in something that's not really there<
No. Something in me truly broke. And by my own sheer determination, I was going to find the answers I had been seeking my whole life. And because I was filled, and because I believed and trusted Him, and accepted Him, I asked to truly know Him. He came to me. And words in the bible began to tie together, and come to life and fit, and I understood things that were closed off from me before. His words became life.
And I have greater faith in Him because He is invisible. I do not need to see Him, to believe. I have lesser faith in that which is visible, because those things are dying and temporary. This existence is temporary. Time is temporary and one day you and I won't be in this place anymore and where we will go, only God knows.
But ask yourself this; while you have the opportunity to find Him and ask Him to help you, is there any part of you willing to do that? or is choosing to become ash and dust the better choice?
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may whatever imaginary entity you believe in have mercy on your nonexistent soul.
(Quote changed slightly for my amusement)
