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Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind
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RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind
(September 8, 2014 at 7:56 pm)pocaracas Wrote: wait, wait, wait, wait....

"are not a product of the specific mechanism"?
An ocean wave is a product of the water, be it caused by tides, winds or some boat engine.
I don't think so. I think the wave is caused by the pull of the moon, by the winds, and by the engine. You could take out the water, put in alcohol, and still have waves.

Quote:A pressure wave is also a product of the medium.... it's typically called a sound wave, unless you're talking about rocks... then it's called an seismic P-wave.
Thank you. I was waiting for this. I think the QUALITY of the wave is dependent on the medium, but the FACT of the wave is dependent on underlying forces.

So to consider mind, I'd say the specific QUALITY of human experience is obviously largely dependent on the way the brain works, but the FACT of mind is not explainable by the brain at all, but by some other more fundamental principle.
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Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by bennyboy - September 5, 2014 at 7:46 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by pocaracas - September 7, 2014 at 4:10 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by bennyboy - September 7, 2014 at 7:10 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by pocaracas - September 8, 2014 at 6:51 am
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by Angrboda - September 7, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by bennyboy - September 7, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by Diablo - September 8, 2014 at 7:04 am
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by bennyboy - September 8, 2014 at 6:49 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by pocaracas - September 8, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by bennyboy - September 8, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by Mudhammam - September 8, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by bennyboy - September 8, 2014 at 9:43 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by Mudhammam - September 14, 2014 at 12:13 am
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by bennyboy - September 14, 2014 at 2:06 am
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by Mudhammam - September 14, 2014 at 9:49 am
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by bennyboy - September 14, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by Mudhammam - September 14, 2014 at 10:00 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by Diablo - September 8, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by bennyboy - September 8, 2014 at 7:42 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by Surgenator - September 15, 2014 at 12:15 am
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by bennyboy - September 15, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by Surgenator - September 15, 2014 at 8:59 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by pocaracas - September 8, 2014 at 8:30 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by genkaus - September 13, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by bennyboy - September 14, 2014 at 9:01 pm
RE: Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2014 at 10:45 pm

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