RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 23, 2015 at 7:12 pm
(This post was last modified: January 23, 2015 at 7:17 pm by Heywood.)
(January 23, 2015 at 6:22 pm)Surgenator Wrote:(January 23, 2015 at 5:54 pm)Heywood Wrote: Evolution itself is a process. Processes can be components in systems. Any system which uses the process of evolution can be called an evolutionary system. Claiming that evolutionary systems do not exist because evolution itself is not a system is like claiming eco-systems do not exist because ecology is not a system.
The point Chas made was so ridiculous that I didn't bother to address. I have to now because you guys are hanging your hat on it instead of simply presenting an observation which supports proposition 2. You guys are really scrapping the barrel now and still coming up with nothing.
Evolution is not a system just like accidents are not a system.
Yeah, I said that. I said evolution is a process. Systems which use the process of evolution can be called evolutionary systems. You can't find observations which support proposition 2. Instead of being honest with yourself and coming to grips with the fact that there are certain observations(or lack thereof) of reality which conflict with your world view, you are trying to find fault with the propositions. This nit picking is really grasping at straws.
If you don't like "system" then toss it out. It doesn't help you. Consider these two propositions instead:
Proposition 1: all initial implementations of the process of evolution require intellects.
Proposition 2: all initial implementations of the process of evolution do not require intellects.
Please present an observation which supports the modified proposition 2. Your bacteria example doesn't work because you did not observe the initial implementation of that process which resulted in bacteria eating nylon.
