RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell?
January 27, 2015 at 9:57 pm
(This post was last modified: January 27, 2015 at 9:58 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 27, 2015 at 9:40 pm)IATIA Wrote: In a deterministic universe, there would be no free will. Everything is a 'chain of billiard balls' and everything is what it had to be.I don't think that the universe being a deterministic place is actually the most salient part of that. Imagine that it isn't...that still won't get -us- any closer to having free will. Maybe the universe isn't deterministic, maybe something, somewhere, has some of this free will. I don't think that we do. But, sure...if the universe, everything, were entirely deterministic..there'd be no room for free will, sure.
Quote:Without free will, how can I own or control anything?Free will isn't a requirement for either of those things, that's how. So in both of those regards, it doesn't really matter if you have it or not. I gave a few examples of precisely that in my last post.
Quote:I am just a product of the 'chain of billiard balls'.That, in your example, does not have free will - roger. Yet, your heart is still your own, and none others...and you do control it..even if you don't choose to do so, if "free will" isn't the mechanism by which that control is accomplished.
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