Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell?

[Godscreated]

Do you really think we could comprehend the process of creation.

Sure. There would be multiple ways for it to be described. The Bible just uses generalizations, but why wouldn't god be able to explain how he did it?

Do you really believe that we could understand how God brought physical things into being, out of nothing. I really do not believe that would be possible. It's questioned all the time, why, because we can't even imagine such a process.

Yes you're right, God knows without being physically present, I'm not sure how that works being a spirit, whatever that in itself entails.
I do disagree about what sin is if you're applying your definition to all sin. God would never give approval for something that would separate one further from Him.

I don't mean that god is "with you" when you sin, in the sense that he is okay with it. But he would know what you did, wouldn't he? You would not be able to hide from god. So in that sense he is ever-present, in that he would always know.

Agree.

GC

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What kind of crazy crap have you dreamed up now, you are as delusional as they come.

GC

............okay? I'll have an order of cornbread. Hold the ceramics.

Be prepared to own your own comments or keep them stuffed in your mouth, would be my advice.

Let me lay this out simply for you.
-If god is present in our future (for example.. is omni-present-), then that future - from some point of view- is already actualized. We are progressing towards it, it is determined.

You'll never change will you, always the one to jump in and try to make others look less than yourself. It's called a defense mechanism, try to make others look stupid so the really stupid one looks bright. Well with the Christians here you're as tarnished as a old silver spoon.
Now to the actual material, actualized no, visualized yes. To be determined it would have to be planned out to the smallest detail by the one manipulating the actions. God does not do this, scripture makes it clear, the flood story shows God allows things to progress in man's free will.

-If god has knowledge of our future states (for example.....is omni-scient), then those future states -from some point of view- are already actualized. We are progressing towards them, they are predetermined.

Actualized no, visualized yes. To be determined it would have to be planned out to the smallest detail by the one manipulating the actions. God does not do this, the scriptures make it clear, the story of the Israelites shows God allows things to progress in man's free will.

Now sure, sure, you don't like the idea of "god" being the one determining this stuff...and that's okay....because it doesn't have to be god doing it for either of the above to hold. I don't mind allowing you that little comfort blanket : god's not doing shit...let alone predetermining things, granted...but this is irrelevant.

Who would like someone planning out their entire life, what reason would one have to grow, no decisions to be made, no reason to care. Just because you believe your false religion determines your every decision doesn't mean the rest of us have to accept such crap.

God says He has chosen national leaders, it's for reasons you would never accept, but nevertheless it's be done and will continue to happen to keep God's ultimate plan on track. But to predetermine everyone's life never.

What do you think, can "god" be there now, in the future. Does "god" know now, what the future holds?

God's seen what the future holds and has appeared into history to make sure His ultimate plan is carried out, but to plan and control our every move, no, never. Our lives are ours to live and to do so we have to have free will.

GC