RE: If I were an Atheist
May 3, 2015 at 12:16 pm
(This post was last modified: May 3, 2015 at 1:13 pm by robvalue.)
[Many edits sorry! Fucked it up on my ipad]
Why a forum? Because some 70% of people on the planet believe in fairy tales, believe so strong they'll make people miserable over it or even kill over it.
Atheists need support. Can you imagine not being able to tell even your family your most basic beliefs, or lack of, because you may be disowned or even killed?
If people stopped believing fairy tales, we wouldn't need the term atheist at all.
God has not even be coherently defined. As soon as you say it is "supernatural" then science cannot investigate it. Full stop, that's the bottom line. Expecting science to investigate the supernatural is to misunderstand the whole basis of science. I go into detail about this on my website if you are interested.
No, making no claims is not a dodge. It's reserving judgement for such time as evidence appears to make a case for or against God. I'm not required to accept a claim or state belief in the opposite claim, just because it's put to me. I can reject the claim without asserting the opposite. Again, I cover this at length on my website. Being an atheist means I do not believe the claim, that is it. I don't have to state that the claim is false.
I don't have to claim the evidence is unconvincing to me, the evidence is unconvincing to me. I'm not saying it's unconvincing to everyone, that would be ludicrous. My mental state is unconvinced, therefor the evidence is not sufficient for me. I know this because I know my own mental state, hopefully!
A lot of atheists are sceptics, yeah. It's not that surprising, since scepticism leads logically to atheism. But not all atheists get there through the sceptical route. So it's important to decide exactly who it is you are talking about, atheists or sceptics.
Check out this video for why atheists talk about God and religion:
http://youtu.be/xnbXlkNavwo
Why a forum? Because some 70% of people on the planet believe in fairy tales, believe so strong they'll make people miserable over it or even kill over it.
Atheists need support. Can you imagine not being able to tell even your family your most basic beliefs, or lack of, because you may be disowned or even killed?
If people stopped believing fairy tales, we wouldn't need the term atheist at all.
God has not even be coherently defined. As soon as you say it is "supernatural" then science cannot investigate it. Full stop, that's the bottom line. Expecting science to investigate the supernatural is to misunderstand the whole basis of science. I go into detail about this on my website if you are interested.
No, making no claims is not a dodge. It's reserving judgement for such time as evidence appears to make a case for or against God. I'm not required to accept a claim or state belief in the opposite claim, just because it's put to me. I can reject the claim without asserting the opposite. Again, I cover this at length on my website. Being an atheist means I do not believe the claim, that is it. I don't have to state that the claim is false.
I don't have to claim the evidence is unconvincing to me, the evidence is unconvincing to me. I'm not saying it's unconvincing to everyone, that would be ludicrous. My mental state is unconvinced, therefor the evidence is not sufficient for me. I know this because I know my own mental state, hopefully!
A lot of atheists are sceptics, yeah. It's not that surprising, since scepticism leads logically to atheism. But not all atheists get there through the sceptical route. So it's important to decide exactly who it is you are talking about, atheists or sceptics.
Check out this video for why atheists talk about God and religion:
http://youtu.be/xnbXlkNavwo
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Index of useful threads and discussions
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Quickstart guide to the forum