(March 20, 2015 at 10:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote:No where in my illustration did I refer to a situation where someone is past out, what I refered to is a situation of people hooking up at a bar. And yes in many countries if you have consensual sex with a woman while she is drunk it can be legally considered rape.(March 20, 2015 at 10:15 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Well I don't actually agree with the analogy I do somewhat agree with the premise. No I don't think it's the victims fault in anyway if it does happen, but ifrc the point he is making in that video is that you can't just focus all on boys and fixed the issue.Correct, but that doesn't fall on the definition of rape - I'm not talking about that. So how do you statistically propose to "prevent" rape considering that rapists usually (I think) don't self identify as such? You may not be aware but the common rapist is no different than the average male and is sometimes nice and caring
Too illustrate my point, a woman should not be able to go and get drunk enough that she is unaware of herself, take a guy a home, then lay all sorts of blame on him saying he raped her.
alternatively a man shouldn't be able to rape a girl and say "we'll she was hitting on me" in defense.
The scenario you propose is fuelled by men's rights apologists in defense of rapists who didn't realize having sex with someone who's passed out is rape.
Also I made no proposal at all on how to lower the rate of rape, but since you throw around that accusation of rape apologist (which I am not) here are a few ideas on how
1. Clear and reasonable definition of rape. I.even no more pedophilia charges for 19 year old women sleeping with 17 year old guys.
2. Ready and affordable mental health care
3. Proper sex ed
4. Classes geared towards mothers who want to teach there sons how to treat women properly.
5. Discouragement of dogmatic feminism, especially in educational intisuations. (Not all feminism by a long shot)
6. Free self defense classes for youngood women.
7. Clear positioning of the fact that all genders have equal rights and dealing incidents of sexism and harassment in a expedient and reasonable manner in schools and work places.
I think those implementations would go along to reducing rape.
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To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
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That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
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Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
